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Artificial-intelligence systems such as large language models (LLMs) can exhibit behaviour that seems strikingly intelligent. This has led many people, including some experts, to wonder whether these systems could have some form of consciousness — the capacity for subjective experience. However, we think that existing AI systems are not conscious, and that, along current trajectories of development, they are not likely to become conscious. Greater clarity about whether AI could become consciousness will be crucial as society grapples with the challenges posed by this increasingly powerful technology.

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[-] bunchberry@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You can rant all you want about how I’m arguing from authority (I’m not) or how you’re disagreeing rather than not understanding, but you keep literally saying you do not understand.

I am challenging you to actually justify your position, which you have not done so.

Your perception of the squares in the image is “subjective” because you are seeing the same light from both grey squares but perceiving it differently based on context. You are literally percieving the same objective physical phenomenon in two different subjective ways.

Why does something differing based upon context make it subjective? That would make it contextual. It's not the same physical phenomenon: one is a gray square in the context of a shadow, and the other is not. Those are not the same things.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I am challenging you to actually justify your position, which you have not done so.

Ok, except you didn't do that, you said you didn't understand (a universal prompt to be more basic, not go more in depth) and then switched to insults for some reason. Forgive me for having a low opinion of that communication style. But since you do appear to care I will try to give you a more convincing example.

How about The Dress? Given the exact same image, with the same context, and an incredibly large sample size to cover any confounding variables, different people will percieve the same physical phenomena (the image) in two entirely different ways, to the point that many people cannot see it the other way. Does that not make The Dress truly "subjective" in the way that I think you were using it, ie., that different subjects (people) experience different things (percieve different colors) when exposed to the same physical phenomena (the image)?

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