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Do you expect people to vote Republican? The libertarian has zero chance of winning and if you vote for them 100% chance of helping the Republican
Edit: as you can see by the responses below, op is fighting hard against a simple truth: independents do not win elections, they help Republicans.
Why do you expect so little from your Democratic candidates? Ohio and Iowa are unsafe for trans people under either party now.
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If this is what bipartisan democratic outcomes look like, if this is what you uphold as democracy, then I guess you can count me out. There is zero reason to take up the Republican position on this issue unless you are doing it for the love of the game.
The United States is also a one-party state, but with typical American extravagance, they have two of them. ~Julius Nyerere
What you are doing is distracting from my point. It's not an unfair expectation to expect people to be realistic and pragmatic. That's just called being remotely reasonable
Sorry, is highlighting the Democrats transphobia disttracting? Oh right, the Democrats can never fail the voters, but the voters always fail the Democrats. The reason Democrats are running transphobes is because of this notion of "pragmatism". This pragmatism is what allows for Republicans to run as Democrats. Liberals are so worried about the DSA taking root in the party that they won't even bother seeing the fox slip into the hen house.
You're pretending not to get it. I'm out.
You want people to vote for the "lesser evil" instead of the transphobes at Republican Inc. And that lesser evil is... checks notes The transphobes at Democrats Inc. Seems like a false choice to me. Especially when the person were talking about is in support of a ban on federal funding for gender affirming care.
You want them to vote for the same "Democrat" who is a former registered Republican and voted for George W. Bush. Who explicitly campaigns on his willingness to work with Republicans and even with President Trump. Who calls himself a "common-sense moderate" and "common-sense prairie populist". · The same "Democrat" that has represented a Republican-leaning district in Iowa since 2022. Who is described as "one of Iowa’s most bipartisan" legislators. And in one of his campaign ads reportedly highlights that he has "700 votes" working with Republicans.
Yeah, I guess I don't fucking get it.
Just so you know, I'm not engaging with the pretense that we can protest vote our way anywhere. That's clearly never worked before and there's no indication it ever would.
And what you are advocating for has lead us to this exact slate of candidates. You assume I'm suggesting a protest vote. I'm simply pointing out a contradiction that you seem to not recognize.
If that were true I think you would've pointed it out in the post and in your first response, and nothing would've been there to criticize. Instead you write novels about how I want Democrats to be worse. You know it's a lie, but you kept it up. That tells us something.
So you're saying that it is not true that voting for a lesser evil doesn't result in the slate of candidates that we're seeing in front of us?
Why are some of these Democrats adopting this anti-transposition when previously they didn't have to? When Josh Turek got his seat in 2022, he did not have to run on anti-trans issues in order to do so. In fact, he even voted against a bathroom bill in 2023 that would restricted trans people from using bathrooms of their identified gender.
Now he wants to pull funding from the federal level for Gender-affirming care. It sure seems like our lesser evil is moving to the right, along with their opposition.
But why would they do that? Couldn't there be an economic argument to be made, Instead of having to rely on this capitulation to the invented issues of the right wing conservative party? And if so, why are the Democrats not adopting it?
I'm not reading that. Why the fuck would I? All you're doing is trying to help Republicans and shout down anyone pointing it out
You can't read 160 words? Nine sentences?
How would you know that? You haven't read anything I've written.
The pattern is clear.
blue maga hard at work ^^^
This is the problem - I’d bet donuts to dollars that his opponent thinks all trans folk are pedos that should be locked up, or worse. Why are our choices always between “willing to throw the most vulnerable people under the bus to get elected” and “evil clown whose terrible god says whole groups should be slaughtered or enslaved”. Why can’t the former be the worst alternative, and the other a decent human being?
We can have those choices, but we have to fight for them
Agreed
Agreed.
So you wish for another John Fetterman in the government. A blue MAGA.
What is John's voting record? Oh ya 90-96% in party line with Dems, only recently dropping to 81-88%. Yes he's shitty, but still 90% better than a republican. People need to stop parroting every shitty opinion they read online.
Yes just whatever lies you want to make up. Because anyone who doesn't believe in the absurd practice of protest votes is guilty of literally any lie you want to spout.