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EU to give Frontex new powers to deport migrants from outside Europe
(www.euronews.com)
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Good. This will undermine the appeal of far-right groups which are anti-immigrant.
The idea that adopting right-wing policies will weaken the far right is a wild theory. It just legitimizes their positions.
Their populism works becaus none of the non right wing parties is dealing with the issues.
It works because people are told lies about what the issues actually are. People notice there's a problem but can't diagnose it and right wingers lie just like antivaxxers and other conspiracy theorists. Because this doesn't solve the problem it also can not work - people will notice the problems remains and because it remains they'll assume it must be somebody else who has the answers. And the extreme right's lies are amplified while the left / progressive policies are ignored.
You have to break through the media bias and reach people with real solutions instead
No, it undermines their position on immigration, their top issue. On other issues, people might not agree with them.
Sure, mine away until your position is indistinguishable from theirs. That'll show them.
No, on immigration the AfD is more extreme.
Well, they will form a coalition with the conservatives in the future so let's see what degree of xenophobia they will reach.
But the CDU is adopting a harder stance on immigration. This might undermine support for the AfD.
Sure, they try that for a couple of years now. The only support they undermine is the one they get. They're in steady decline. Good riddance.
No, the article is about new powers Frontex has been given to control immigration.
Ah, so your point is that becoming the AfD is defeating the AfD. I guess we have to wait and see.
No, CDU's stance towards immigrants is milder.
They're tossing the dog a bone to make it shut up.
It will work, but not for long. The facists dogs will come back to get more from the hand that feeds.
I'm afraid they're turning into dogs as well...
Illegal migration has been the wedge used by fascist Russia to split Western unity. Quite successfully. Outdated migration policies helped conflate good migration with bad, and the unwillingness to distinguish the two let the issue fester and drive the whole world toward fascism. Russia knew what they are doing, and they are winning.
I think you're giving Russia too much credit here. The EU is making its own choices and expanding Frontex's powers to facilitate deportations through third countries is another step towards fortifying Fortress Europe. People fleeing war or poverty shouldn't have to prove they're the right kind of migrants to deserve humane treatment.
This planet cannot sustain 8billion+ people. Poverty and war cannot be fixed by moving everybody into Western countries. Unfortunately, fewer people are needed. The fascists have long recognized this, and they want to keep people on a racial basis. They are having their way because Liberal Democracies failed to keep people on a behavioral basis. It is wrong to discriminate by birth. It is also wrong to not discriminate by behavior.
It can already. It's not because it's not always profitable and we live in capitalism. There are countless studies to support this. Degrowth is kind of a cringe theory as well.
What are you talking about regarding behavior? Do you think frontex will do a test at the border?
Sustainability, decent QOL, high population. Pick two. I pick the first two. Studies usually pick the first and the last. Arguable what "decent" is, but definitely more than "you're not starving to death and you have some kind of roof above your head". Or they pick the last 2, and pretend that we can science our way into prosperity. Current agricultural methods are not long term sustainable, regardless if profit motivated or not. Before fertilizers, yields were much lower. But sustainable. But fertilizers and industrial agriculture screw up the soil long term. Also fertilizers need to be produced, often from non-renewing sources. Etc.
I have no comment on Frontex. They are probably a too late attempt to fix something that should have been fixed 50+ years ago.
Not when the far-left position is rejected by vast majority of people. About 90% of Spaniards disapproved with how the government handled the crisis in Ceuta. The far-left Sumar party was from the beginning against deportations but even left-wing PSEO could see that this positions is impossible to defend and ended up expelling all the migrants.
Some of the left-wing policies go so far left that most people reject them and the only way to weaken far right is to take a step back. Interesting read.
I don't think a crisis at the border justifies further fortifying Fortress Europe. And just because people are unhappy with how a crisis is handled doesn't mean they reject a more humane migration policy.
As for the article, of course Islamist homophobia is a problem. But voting AfD over it seems pretty short-sighted to me. The AfD is happy to use gay rights as a tool against migrants but that doesn't mean they actually care about protecting queer people. There's a very real possibility that once migrants are no longer the main target, queer people will be back in the firing line.
I'm not arguing for or against any of those positions here. I'm showing how some of the left-wing positions are so unpopular that yes, adapting more centrist (close to the right) position is actually beneficial for the left. Basically, most of the time left-wing politicians are trying to adopt right wing positions hoping that they will steal some votes from the right (which never works) but sometimes, common sense policy is actually closer to the center because the far-left lost touch with reality on some issues.
Spanish government tends to run to the left to mobilize voters (exception in Europe). They granted amnesty to all the migrants in Spain very recently which puts them to the left of pretty much all the other countries in Europe but even they will not go as far left as Sumar would like because they know it's not what vast majority of voters (both on the right and left) want. EU sees the same thing.
P.S. As another example, the far-left would say that saying "Islamist homophobia is a problem" is racist and Islamophobic so even you adapted more centrist position here.