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submitted 4 days ago by Kajika@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

You can also read The problem with the anti systemd attitude.

This is not just hatred towards systemd, it can do things very well, the direction it is going isn't great.

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[-] lauha@lemmy.world 99 points 4 days ago

Linux is the second-most popular descendent of Unix, the first being OSX.

This ruffles my feathers. Disregarding servers where Linux has near monopoly, surely Linux is installed on more devices and has more users than OSX? OP is clearly counting only desktop users

[-] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 25 points 4 days ago

alternative reality where macos is the backbone of servers worldwide eurhghghrugr

[-] trojanbark@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

At least we would all be able to slow down for awhile

[-] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 13 points 4 days ago

cept for the poor IT departments of the world that have to maintain this shit. "ye hold on the server is being bottleneck'd by liquid glass"

[-] provectus@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 days ago

Linux is the second-most popular descendent of Unix, the first being OSX.

Linux is not really a descendant of Unix. It is a Unix clone, but its roots do not trace back to Unix.

[-] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago

OSX comes from FreeBSD, which came from BSD, which had to rewrite everything that they got from UNIX thanks to copyright trolls

Beyond that OSX just happens to be unix-like, apple couldn't give less of a fuck about it being unix-like

[-] provectus@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

OSX also came from NextStep which came from the original BSD Unix. They used FreeBSD as well. OSX is also certified Unix starting from leopard. This year apple did not renew the certification, so later releases of macOS are not Unix, but Unix-like.

[-] Kajika@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago

Same here, also all embedded system on linux + smartphone. I guess the author meant desktop usage. Still I am very unsure about the world at large. This is north-American take.

[-] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 days ago

I agree. Linux on desktop is so good for at least five years, if not longer, maybe ten. That I imagine many people using it, can recommend it to others, and so forth. And so in absolute numbers, it would be much more than macOS gets.

[-] asap@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I use Bazzite and have a Mac, and I despise every second I have to use MacOS. It is unintuitive and painful in comparison. IMO

[-] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I haven’t used macOS since circa 2019, which was Big Sur or something. And it was good, more or so. Perhaps it got worse since then. Specifically the Liquid Ass fiasco, I can believe it’s been a disaster.

But in general, you need to invest into their ecosystem heavily to enjoy them properly. Say, an Apple keyboard, trackpad, display, headphones, iPhone, iPad, etc. The more you invested, the more enjoyable the experience. Also, you need to use it for years (if not decades) to truly get some ‘think different’ things. Otherwise they just feel stupid and unnecessary. (Some things still very stupid to me, yeah.)

I’m heavily invested, however, and I still prefer modern Linux. None of my Apple devices run macOS today, all of them are Arch Linux, Fedora, or even DietPi (an old MacBook used as a server).

In my opinion, Gnome wins as-is. If I’m to suggest a macOS or Linux system to an elder relative, I’d choose Gnome, not macOS. About a decade ago, I’d choose macOS, thinking it’s simpler.

My favourite thing with macOS that I use on all my Linux machines is cmd key for things like copy paste (all my keyboards are from Apple). So useful, especially in a terminal.

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