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[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What will be done to Israel and it's population will unfortunately not even be even as insufficient as Nazi Germany was. Not unless the world changes the way it deals with a society in the aftermath of a genocide.

There was a means of (false) denial of knowledge within the population that could be used as a means of self criticism in Germany. This denial is mostly untrue; but was still reasonable enough for means of recovery. A means of recovery that still allowed for the idealism of liberal thought to operate within. A means of recovery but definitely not a means of justice.

The levels of recovery and justice that Israel would require at this point would give Stalin himself a moment of pause. Not just in his famous "kill all the Nazi officers" comment. But the level of real and justified "reeducation" that would need to be forced on to the Israeli population would need to expand beyond the level that our Liberal ideas of "freedom" could contemplate.

It's an example of a society that is too sick and beyond repair that the ideas of justice we are taught in the west lack the tools to address.

But I hope we understand this soon. Because the rise of the AFD in Germany should show us that a reasonable denial/acceptance with a reflection on the harms caused is NOT enough. The fascist and racist supremacy needs to be pulled out from it's root.

Those unable to be reeducated need to be removed from society and influence on future generations. Especially those with wealth and political influence. Their children need to be given a chance to repair the harms and make peace without the corruption of a generation indoctrinated by fascist and racial supremacist ideology.

If we don't take into account these larger harms; and instead focus on individual "rights" the seed of fascism with continue to spread. Its a parasite that latches on to the ideas of Liberal thought. It will continue to take root unless the anchors it latches onto are removed entirely.

Edit: I say all of this as an American with complete awareness that our society is following a similar path.

[-] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

You might want to look at the history of the US, especially what happened to all the natives

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I agree, unfortunately everything you write is true, including USA being on a similar path.
At least there is still hope for USA, as for now it's "only" half the population that has gone crazy. I think USA is at a tipping point.

[-] LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago

The AFD is only winning because the liberal center pinned their platform on an unpopular war that destroyed their economy, and all to arm the same fascism you speak of.

Western liberals are only NIMBY about fascism. They foster it within our "adversaries", in Ukraine and Russia. Navalny was a fascist. Pussy Riot are fascists.

And sure, Russia has done like in exchange.

The big winner is fascists everywhere.

this post was submitted on 26 Oct 2026
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