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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

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[-] BioMan@awful.systems 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So I guess Anthropic has already accidentally created Friendly AI? EDIT: in spring 2024 at that.

Also - is the coivd lab leak conspiracy nonsense STILL a shibboleth among this bunch? Just because it underscores their ideas about Researchers Have To Be Careful?

(I can rant for SO long about how there is absolutely nothing interesting about the SARS-2 virus itself AT ALL and that the only interesting thing about it is that we were forced to see it for the first time as adults which we aren't built for, that the early sequences we have are a fascinating case of catching the zoonotic shift right as it happened for once, and that it emerged in exactly the same way as SARS-1 and all the weirdness around the Chinese government hiding stuff around its origin is blatantly them not wanting to look stupid for letting it happen a second time...)

[-] istewart@awful.systems 4 points 7 hours ago

Also - is the coivd lab leak conspiracy nonsense STILL a shibboleth among this bunch? Just because it underscores their ideas about Researchers Have To Be Careful?

I feel like it plays to their aesthetic, which is partly built on their insecurities. Oh, humans aren't smart enough to handle all this advanced research (read: very few of these people were committed enough to get bio or chem degrees, let alone follow through with research careers), but the superintelligent AI surely will be able to! If we submit to the AI god now, it will make up for the gaping voids of meaning and skill inside ourselves.

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 2 points 4 hours ago

I think it's more that someone made a Bayesian analysis and concluded with 60% certainty or something that it was a lab leak. Can't remember the link now but I believe it was widely discussed at the time.

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

There was a rat startup that was aiming to become a sort of ground truth arbiter by putting up bet money if you could win a debate against them on a controversial topic. Lab leak was the first such debate with them on the pro side and they lost like 100K over that to a random acx poster who took them to school.

Anyway I'm mentioning this because "60% certainty" reminded me that when arguing for the side of the lab leak all sorts of rationalist accepted truths type stuff emerged, like how they posited a bunch of other incidents as lab leaks and it turned out nobody else actually thought that and it was just arbitrary priors wrangling because it turns out that having we are better than any experts that haven't read the sequences type contrarianism as a pillar of faith encourages conspiracy brain.

Also Sam Altman is a lab leak truther but it's not like it's possible to take anything he says at face value.

edit: https://awful.systems/post/1088988

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

That's the link I was thinking of , thanks for digging that up.

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