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[-] dumnezero@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

Because utilitarians are amoral. In fact, the AI ethics "intellectuals" are usually utilitarians, as seen with "Longtermism" and "Effective Altruism."

You need to realize that your stance is not going to be enough.

[-] Seralth@piefed.seralth.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But utilitarianism is a moral system. How can it be amoral...? Its by definition a moral system. You could put fort the argument that it can sometimes reach immoral conclusions, but calling it amoral is just... mixing things up at best and being disingenuous at worse.

[-] dumnezero@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

While funny, the hero could have done both: save them and register them as organ donors.

[-] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

And let them push even more booze and junk food through those precious organs??

[-] dumnezero@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Because it's not about persons or beings, it is about accounting towards a goal.

[-] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Pointing to a moral horizon in the future where things "balance out" is a tool to dismiss moral distinctions in the current, lived context.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Just because someone making such an argument identifies as a utilitarian doesn't mean all utilitarians make flimsy arguments.

[-] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

That's true, but it's my answer to the question about how it can be amoral. That's how.

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