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Manifestos, Fear, and ‘Loser Thinking’: Inside Proton’s AI Reckoning
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this post was submitted on 29 Oct 2026
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Haven't done enough research to say yet. Others have been suggesting in the thread. Might self host my passwords. Email seems the easiest switch with the most options. Cloud storage, not sure yet; I need a decent amount of it for crucial backups.
Well, that's the problem IMO, there isn't really a perfect alternative.
I never claimed that there was.
I didn't say you were 🤷🏼♀️
I suppose I'm just confused at the purpose of the sentiment, then. Not having a perfect alternative is not a good excuse to continue supporting Proton with its current leadership and direction.
It's the best I know about.
If you don't take issue with the things raised in the article, then you do you. For me, they are enough for me to leave Proton. You came into this conversation asking me what alternatives I was interested in.
Well to where then? This sounds more like a proton bash than something helpful.
??? I already answered that 7 comments ago. You asked me for my opinions and I gave them, I'm so confused.
You answered that you didn't know of a better alternative, but you also think people should move, which doesn't make sense.
For the record, nowhere in this conversation did I say that I think people should move. You're putting words in my mouth. I've only ever spoken about myself and my own plans.
That clarified, I do think people should not support a company with leadership like Proton's.
You do not need a perfect or "better" (subjective) alternative to leave Proton. If you are not willing to accept an inconvenience for a moral stance, then it is no moral stance at all.
Just because I do not personally yet know what I will be switching to does not at all undermine my position. I do not think you are carrying on this conversation in good faith, so I'm going to end it here.
Yeah you could have just shut up ages ago, nothing lost but a lot of babbel.
Blocked.