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Andy Yen's values are incompatible with Proton's mission. He advocates for poor security practices, supports fascists, and he verbally abuses his subordinates. As such, I can no longer in good conscience continue to financially support a company with such terrible leadership.

Unfortunately for me, my subscription just renewed last month on a multi year plan, but it does give me time to browse for and experiment with alternatives.

If you're able, I encourage you to do the same and cite Andy Yen as the driving factor for your decision. We can't let these tech bro fascists destroy what little semblance of privacy we have left.

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[-] Ravenheart@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

I just finished a long process of degoogling. Don't tell me I have to deproton now. Ugh.

[-] abc@suppo.fi 1 points 3 hours ago

Don’t tell me I have to deproton now.

You don't.

[-] Ravenheart@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

If I do, it won't be any time soon.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 21 hours ago

I was going to use them to de-Google.

Then he did stupid shit and I passed on going proton.

Then I considered:

 If I'm going to de-google, just to throw all my shit on another company I have no control over, what in the fuck is the point?   

Host your own for what you can/want to.

Seperate the things you don't wish to self host and put them with companies you like for the time being.

If one of them becomes awful, you're only moving one service.

[-] Ravenheart@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago

Self hosting is down the line for me, for sure.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago

There's a Hetzner option. The server is super fucking cheap. They just give you a virtual slice of a VM and host up a nextcloud. That gives you storage and office apps. Move mail to tuta. Keepassx and syncthing for passwords. ( i would have said bitwarden, but they're in halloweentown at the moment too)

[-] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Honestly mail on Tuta is disappointing. It works nut it's very basic.

Rules have one option... send the mail to a folder, of which Trash is one. Can't forward, can't add tags or labels, can't even disable the new mail notification even if you send it to trash.

Want folders to only show up if there are unread messages? Not an option.

Calendar events... want a reminder? You get 6 choices (start, 5m, 10m, 30m, 1hr, 1 day). Want 15m or maybe 2hr? Sorry, too bad... no custom option.

Things work but it's very basic. I wished I'd researched a bit more before took my domain to it. I'll switch later.

[-] Tradwench@thelemmy.club 2 points 18 hours ago

Is there any truth to the rumors that Tuta is some backdoor intelligence operation or such?

[-] bricklybear973@lemmy.zip 3 points 21 hours ago

I literally just started the process of Google -> Proton, so I feel you. In terms of personal privacy it’s a step in the right direction…I’m not going to self host or anything too complicated so I think that’s the balance for now. Glad others are able to put some pressure on them to do better though!

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