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[–] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have? JetBrains never has stopped offering them.

Who wouldn't want an experience tailored to their main language? I certainly favor PyCharm over Ultimate

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

JetBrains is not representative of every editor / dev. Language servers mean I can use Emacs / Vim / VSCode / whatever else I want and have IDE features for whatever language I want.

[–] jvisick@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

Just as JetBrains is not representative of every dev, neither are LSPs. Some developers want a specialized IDE for their language(s), some want a highly customized editor with their language servers. As long as you efficiently produce code that works, who cares what other people use?

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can do that if you want to :

Like many of our IDEs, the functionality of RustRover can be installed as a plugin in IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate.

But if you only care about a particular language/stack you can use the dedicated IDE, it's cheaper and the UX is optimized for your use case.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a JetBrains plugin. It is just for JetBrains applications, and it closed source, right? Language servers are basically the metric system of IDEs. I can go from Emacs to Vim to VSCode and just use rust-analyzer for my IDE backend.

I don't understand the benefit of using JetBrains specific plugins that only work with JetBrains.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because I (and many others) find their products to be far superior to the competition.

[–] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This. I'm using PyCharm with the new UI, and watching my colleagues struggle with VSCode is a bit painful to see. Not saying you can't be productive with it, but why make your life harder than it needs to be?

[–] MaungaHikoi 2 points 1 year ago

Same here but with WebStorm.

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

JetBrains users kind of live in their own weird bubble. Of the ones I've worked with, a decent number didn't even know how to use git, they just relied on the built in vcs tools

[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

And? Do you get high off of the smeeeelll of your own farts, sir madam?

[–] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think there's something for everyone. Some people want one editor for everything, some want one tailored to their language needs

[–] sickday@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the right answer, and I wish more people would grasp that.

[–] MaungaHikoi 5 points 1 year ago

Tech has an abundance of people who really need to be right in an argument. I've had this same argument with a developer at a client company of mine. Just couldn't let it go when I said I was comfortable with the Jetbrains suite and used their language specific tooling instead of VSCode.