159
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works to c/protonprivacy@lemmy.world

There seems to be a lot of confusion here about the ownership structure of Proton.... "the CEO is beholden to shareholders!!!", etc...

Proton is not a publicly traded company... The largest shareholder is the non-profit whose mission is as follows:

Proton was created to serve the world, and the non-profit Proton Foundation ensures that this can never change. As Proton’s primary shareholder, the foundation exercises its control to ensure that Proton does not deviate from our mission to build a better internet that serves the interests of all of society. Our legally binding purpose is to further the advancement of privacy, freedom, and democracy around the world.

https://proton.me/foundation

please contact the Board of Trustees and ask for the removal of the CEO and CTO

mailto: foundation@proton.me

At least one of the Board members is on Mastodon

Tim Berners-Lee: https://w3c.social/@timbl (yes, THAT guy... the inventor or the mother-flipping ~~internets~~ world wide web)

Email alternatives are incredibly hard to build... it's not like forking a software repo if the devs go off the deep end. Proton is worth trying to save if the alternatives are going back to google or switching to some other small time player who is equally suceptible to having a CEO ruin everything without the governance structure to make changes like Proton (in theory) has.

Let's at least try

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago

i'm not sure crippling them financially is the best route..... effective, but maybe not the best for the future of the company (if they decide to change course....) it's not like they're a silicon valley company flush with VC money to absorb the losses. they're already saying that revenue isn't where they want it to be....

[-] begrudgedcarfolk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

So let me get this straight, we should keep paying them for poor mismanagement? Would you continue to buy contaminated food solely because it was the only local independently operated grocery store?

Maybe they should focus on the product instead of spending tens of thousands of dollars on LTT ads? Maybe the executives should be forced to take a pay cut because they're bad at their jobs, or better yet, fired and replaced with someone competent? I'm not in the camp of giving money to companies who allow their executives to abuse their employees.

[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

No, i mean give them a chance to make changes before cancelling....

[-] wholookshere@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago

How many chances does he get?

Because this is his first big controversy here. There was praising Donald trump and IIRC also donated.

[-] begrudgedcarfolk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

And how are they supposed to know it's a problem if people aren't cancelling?

[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

By writing to the board of directors first....

This is a non-profit organization... i tend to treat it more like a community i am part of rather than just another business transaction i can just quit and leave any time

Maybe i am just naive

[-] begrudgedcarfolk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

But it's not a non-profit, it's a for-profit that's majority owned (51%) by a non-profit foundation... For now. The board can always decide to issue more shares and dilute the control of the non-profit or the board of the non-profit can decide to sell its shares for whatever reason. It's an unnecessarily complicated ownership structure. Signal is actually non-profit and doesn't have any of these issues.

Also, I'd like to point out that if it was a lower level employee spouting fascist nonsense they would have no problem firing them immediately and distancing themselves from the hateful comments, but CEOs almost always geta free pass to continue being pieces of shit and we're told to give them a chance and that it's their personal view and not the view of the company. It's bullshit. Andy NEEDS to GO!

this post was submitted on 01 Nov 2026
159 points (98.8% liked)

Proton

9833 readers
103 users here now

Empowering you to choose a better internet where privacy is the default. Protect yourself online with Proton Mail, Proton VPN, Proton Calendar, Proton Drive. Proton Pass and SimpleLogin.

Proton Mail is the world's largest secure email provider. Swiss, end-to-end encrypted, private, and free.

Proton VPN is the world’s only open-source, publicly audited, unlimited and free VPN. Swiss-based, no-ads, and no-logs.

Proton Calendar is the world's first end-to-end encrypted calendar that allows you to keep your life private.

Proton Drive is a free end-to-end encrypted cloud storage that allows you to securely backup and share your files. It's open source, publicly audited, and Swiss-based.

Proton Pass Proton Pass is a free and open-source password manager which brings a higher level of security with rigorous end-to-end encryption of all data (including usernames, URLs, notes, and more) and email alias support.

SimpleLogin lets you send and receive emails anonymously via easily-generated unique email aliases.

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS