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[-] Carmakazi@piefed.social 76 points 14 hours ago

It's coming from the same cohort of people who lynched black men for looking the wrong way at a white woman. There's no unforgivable deed to them, only in groups and out groups.

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 38 points 13 hours ago

Conservative morality is built on the principle that there are good people and bad people. Everything the good people do is good; everything the bad people do is bad. And it's not just rhetoric, they actually see the world this way.

It's why they can be outraged about a tan suit, but not give a shit about hosting a closed-door meeting with known Russian spies. Wearing a tan suit was done by a bad person, so it's bad. Meeting with Russian spies was done by a good person, so it's good.

Their morality is defined not by their actions, not by the consequences of their actions, nor even the intention of their actions -- it's defined by identity. If you're part of the 'good people' group, you can do no wrong, and even if you do terrible things, it was probably for the benefit of the good people group, so you're forgiven. If you're part of the 'bad people' group, nothing you do is ever good enough, and even the slightest deviation from any norm will be treated as an act of pure evil, and if you ever do anything that seems good, it must be a trick, nothing but false pretenses.

It's deeply intertwined with religion, where they first learn such morality: everything God does is good because (by definition) God is good. 'Good' is defined in relation to godliness. Everything Satan does is bad because (by definition) Satan is evil. If something good happened to you, God did it. If something bad happened to you, Satan did it. When that forms the basis of your morality, it begins to extend into in-groups and out-groups, and that's where you get mainstream conservative morality from.

[-] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

The last paragraph makes no sense in the context of, well, the Bible minus Paulian nonsense ("it rains on the just and unjust alike", "the race doesn't always go to the fast, time and chance happens to us all"), and what do God and Satan have to do with us?... but I'm sure it makes entire sense to a good chunk of intellectually lazy and immature chuds who simply want to give themselves moral allowances, be murderous maniacs, settlers and rapists and feel alright about it.

On the other hand, I do think the Roman/Paulian/Trinitarian "Jesus died so our sins are forgiven as long as we believe that man is God" line of thinking is soul poison and evidently completely against every belief held by any God-fearing monotheist, Jesus included. Taking that lie to heart can only lead to immorality, and taking it to heart as a community can only make it worse, genocidally worse.

[-] DrPop@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

This is true. I remember trying to argue the hypocrisy of them passing supreme court seats after RBG died. They basically did the, "we won we get to decide. Who cares?"

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

Very well said

this post was submitted on 03 Nov 2026
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