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No its not fine to oppress others even if you know you are wrong to. You sound like a founding father who writes that slavery is wrong but brutally exploits slaves anyway.
Yup. The leftism leaves so many leftists' bodies the moment animal liberation comes up. If you recognize the problem, don't be complacent on the solution.
Unlike so many other rights struggles, basic veganism doesn't require action, but rather the cessation of harmful actions. In that regard, it's easier than taking action against other forms of exploitation: simply stop consuming animal products. Plant-based alternatives are readily available (I went vegan in a food desert) and are better for you than eating some poor animal's flesh.
This was me and I still think it's important to sit with this incongruity rather than try to weasel your way out of it with broken logic. Sit with the discomfort of being in conflict with your own ethical knowledge and let it work on you.
I'm not going to look down on someone who eats animal products even though they know better, because I was them not long ago. I know what it feels like to be on both sides of this, as do most vegans.
I would just urge them to keep thinking about it and trying in different little ways to reduce their reliance on animal products here and there.
If you're open minded about veganism and the problems with animal farming you're so much closer than you think to actually being able to do it yourself.
100% agree. That's why I detest people that know it's wrong, and then say things like what OP in the meme does about how you can "just be wrong" and "just live your life" at the expense of your victims. It's not a personal choice when there are victims involved, and when you know there are victims and you have the ability to stop, you need to stop.
But when it comes to actually talking to people about this stuff, I agree with gently encouraging them to not run away from their cognitive dissonance and to follow those thoughts to their logical conclusions.
The biggest hurdle, is the meat-eating culture, and how it is the dominant one in many places, right now. People need certain mental strenght to go againt the culture around them, especially when they have been raised up with it, and not all have that. If all people around you are vegans, and it is considered the norm, a lot of people would become vegan too, just to fit in. As long as meat-eating is seen as normal and people are raised to believe it is normal, many people will continue, even if they agree vegans are right.
Be the change. We'd get nowhere if everyone lets that stop them.
Oh yes, absolutely. I was trying more to make a point, about how it is important to understand the reasons behind, if we want to affect that behavior.
Certainly I would have a hard time being vegan if I visited Korea for instance, but there are ways. I look at them as different difficulty settings.
Also, the ethos is to avoid harming animals as much as practicable which will vary by individual and situation.
You can be a shitty vegan, it's not against the rules hehe. Like you can avoid obvious meat or dairy but not bother reading the fine print—that's better than most people. Or you can try your best but then go eat your craving on the second Sunday of every month, or give yourself two Mulligans a week, or whatever you want. There really are no rules.
Though I'd argue that once you secure your sources of regular plant based food, it's actually quite easy to just go all the way and stick with it.