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[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

I do bring it up every case and even if I didn't this case it's an important distinction. Artificial intelligence is a marketing term used to conjure images of Jarvis and what not in people heads.

Video games companies never claimed to have near sentiment AGI baked into their games that would replace all human workers or blow up the world.

The term artificial intelligence is used to anthropomorphize LLMs as weird as that seems.

It is an important distinction. These are large language models, not reasoning models, not AGI, not artificial life not artificial intelligence.

I know that term as been used by the machine learning community in the past to mean things like decision trees and general models, and it didn't really matter much then but it matters A LOT now.

Words have meanings. This isn't arguing semantics, it's using words as they are intended so we can communicate effectively about something in the world. To argue otherwise is naive, dishonest, and quite honestly just annoying.

[-] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Hi I'm new to this debate and I agree with you that language matters and all that stuff you said at the end. That being said, I'm firmly in the camp of "LLMs are bad, but a 'true' AI would be even worse for us". I could type up several paragraphs diving into the several reasons why I think that way, but to save time (and to get back to my job) I'm just going to steal this Frank Herbert quote:

Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them

Do I think AI, in a vacuum, is always bad and will be no matter who or what makes it? No, not necessarily. But whatever we build will be inherently, and intrinsically tied to the micro- and macro-systems of our society, which are all DEEPLY fucked. Consequently, any AI we bring in would also, even if not initially, end up as being equally, deeply, fucked and end up being far, FAR more detrimental than positive

we can argue what actual ai would be, as long as we agree that it remains very firmly in the realm of science fucking fiction, just this side of inertial dampener fields and FTL travel.

I do agree that any ai made by this society as it exists would be apocalyptic. all its stories about 'evil ai' are just metaphors for itself. we have already given up our thinking to computers (which don't yet think) and corporations and kings and markets. we fucking love giving up our thinking. it's like the whole appeal of fascism for most fascists.

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