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[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

the meat industry does in fact affect climate

true for any industry. look for how badly we have fucked up our soil

whatever you choose not to eat has absolutely no effect on anyone

it does. what I choose to not eat I need to compensate, so there is no choice of not eating something, only real choice is what to eat

[-] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Consider the amount of corn and soy grown for livestock.

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

consider the amount of whatever we will have to grow to substitute meat

[-] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

That would be much less than what we grow for that meat.

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Possibly. Does it sound like "yeah, the problem of humans pushing other life forms into starvation and extinction is solved with this one simple trick"?

[-] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

It doesn't. But you pointed out soil degradation. Just wanted to point out the impact of animal agriculture on soil degradation.

As you said, we can only choose what to eat.

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Yup. We are doing all kinds of wrong things

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

You forget to consider amounts. Some industries and foods have more effect than others, and the less you eat, the less of an effect you have.

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

*the less humans are on the planet, the lesser footprint we leave. It should be handled this way but alas, we are not even close

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The reason we take care of a fish tank, is to maintain the fish.

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

We did not setup the planet to plant humans here now, did we?

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago
[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Exactly. So what are you trying to say with that fishtank?

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

It allowed us to be here so don't mess with it.

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Exactly. Like I said, the fewer of us, the lesser our strain on everything around

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If your goal is to reduce "strain on everything around" (whatever that means), it looks like either a: you starve people, or b: we reduce our fossil fuel consumption. I'd choose b.

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

B is not a solution. Nor A is needed. Come on, it's not rocket surgery

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Then I have no idea what problem you're talking about and what you want from me.

Sounds like you want to make money off fossil fuels and you want me to tell you that's fine, but I'm no rocket surgeon.

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

From you - nothing, I am merely responding to you. The problem is two-fold: one, we are still taking care of our survival at the expense of all other life forms: agriculture that destroys soil, manufacturing that is poisoning water, soil and air, etc. etc. All this can be done in a much more effective and sustainable way. Two, whichever way we do it, planet is finite, so ever increasing human population is a disaster in making. It is time we realized that and started managing our numbers in such a way we don't starve other life just by existing

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 days ago

Alright so then reduce your fossil fuel consumption. That's b. Bye now.

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Alright, so reading problems. Bye, good luck to you

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