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Currently :
"Boost" adds reputation. It's a kind of retweet.
"Downvote" removes reputation
"Upvote" does nothing. (edit : for reputation)
This is because previously the upvote was boost, they were switched around to be similar to other fediverse systems.
Dev mentioned in another thread that the reputation system should be changed to have up/down count instead of boost/down. But they have a lot to do right now so it might not be the most pressing issue...
Ah, okay that does make a lot of sense. Poor ernest must be getting swarmed by idiots like me asking for QOL changes. Thanks for the info.
-6 wrt ego hits was funny. Go check out mine.
Yikes you're at -51 !
Yeah I annoyed some shitlibs defending lemmy.ml and I can’t even create an account or read most posts there. I basically said we Americans are as propagandized probably as much as Red-leaning countries’ citizens.
Maybe don't call them shitlibs?
I didn’t until the prior post.
Either way you're being inflammatory by pointlessly generalizing political parties.
@Maeve
Earned. Youre insufferable.
Boost should be removed entirely since it's nonsense to boost most things. E.g. even if I liked your comment here, why would I want to "retweet" that (and retweet into what even)? I just want to tell you that I liked it... with an upvote.
I think it's like for compatability with the microblogging side of the fediverse; so when someone on Mastodon follows you they can see what you've been "retweeting".
Also, you can microblog with your kbin account, so boosting with it actually does something.
So, "boosting" a microblog/post (tweet) will "repost" it into your timeline (so your followers see it)? But what about for threads/comments? Is there any functionality at all for boosting it except to give the user reputation?
As far as I understand it, if you boost a comment, it will also appear in your timeline.
I actually use 'boost' to save a thread or comment since there is not a save option.
As @HidingCat said it's to increase compatibility with the other app. If I'm following your Kbin account from my Mastodon one, when you boost something I'll see it pop up on my feed. I'd be in favour of keeping it but changing the label to something like "boost to fediverse" or "share with followers", or even just "share".
"share" is obvious in what it does, and efficient in terms of using space on the website. I like it.
Right but it's more than that too though - because if someone is following you on mastodon, and they boost your comment - that adds to your reputation. Which makes more sense than liking stuff increasing your reputation, because people on mastodon (or other platforms) will like stuff just to tell you they like it, but boosting means they think more people should see it - which is more equivalent to an upvote than a like is.
For now I use it to save things, since there is no save function.
So it could probably be replaced by that.
But I think it's also here for compatibility with Mastodon...
Not exactly - it's technically a "favorite" button. Since I learned exactly what you typed out, I've been using it as a way to save posts I want to read later. However it is correct that it does nothing for reputation.
It does, AFAIK affect the post ranking i.e. order of posts. So it's got that going for it - which is nice.
I'm playing with different fediverse at the moment as well as this one. That one doesn't do down votes. Didn't know it at the time when I signed up. The idea is appealing. The idea is that if you disagree with a comment, then you should interact and leave your own viewpoint. An anonymous, unthoughtful down vote does nothing that leads to a discussion. In reddit I'd see something down voted to oblivion because of a name brand mentioned but no discussion as to why people disagreed.
Thus far all of the fediverse has been positive comments 90% of the time.
I hear what you're saying, but as a counterpoint: when I read something really fucking stupid (like someone just trolling and posting racial slurs) the appropriate response is actually to downvote & move on without engaging. Do not feed the trolls.
That actually makes sense. Legit the reddit style voting system was often just mindless dopamine button pressing where just interacting in the group vote was enough to give you yours but not really encouraging anything beyond that. Iv been sitting here kinda missing it on squabble and now im more ok without.
I used to get so annoyed seeing mindless comments being endlessly reposted ('r/unexpectedoffice' was one that comes to mind, there are many more) and getting hundreds of upvotes. I'm hoping the system here discourages that sort of useless nonsense.
Without downvotes, you end up with Twitter-tier garbage discourse and arguments because there's no way for the community to vote to remove an idiot's platform, just clap-backs and ratios.
The up/downvote system is far from perfect, but I'd really rather not lose it as the fediverse draws more people in. I would much rather have my opinion hidden on occasion because I pissed off a wasp hive than have the content I consume be filled with toxic bait that can only be hidden if a moderator gets involved.
Thank you so much. I was not understanding what boost was, and have therefore been ignoring it.
I don't like this, I feel like upvotes should add to reputation, not boosts. But that's just my opinion.
It's also the opinion of the devs. The fact that it's boosts and not upvotes is a bug, they'll get to fixing it, it's just not top priority right at the moment (since "reputation" doesn't actually do anything and is just a small number tucked away on your profile).
Actually I think this one is pretty high priority. People don't like seeing negative numbers next to their names. If there is ONE thing that can drive former redditors en masse off a platform, it is an impossibility to accrue karma because the system is (quite literally) broken (as in, it's incorrectly implemented).
There's one argument that we don't want anyone who could be driven away by such a thing as negative karma score, but....I disagree. More users & more content is a good thing. More serotonin for contributing more content is a good thing.
@albatros
@TooL
Oh that’s incredibly stupid.
That's just the current state of the software, not the intended state of the software. There's a bug right now, reputation's not supposed to be calculated that way. It'll get fixed, there's just rather a lot of higher-priority stuff in flight at the moment.
Just keeping things spinning at this point is taking up most of Ernest's time.