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[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

The differentiation is interesting. To me, gang violence doesn't so much count in death statistics because it's almost never random, and random gun violence is what people fear and talk about when they point to statistics. (I didn't state that very well.)

Don't join a gang and don't kill yourself and your odds of getting shot drop through the floor. NOT that those deaths should be dismissed! But when people talk about, "I might get shot walking down the street.", that's bull.

What the distinction really means is, "Brown people killing each other doesn't count." The dog whistle is audible to me. I've never heard anyone online or IRL point this out, but the racism is clear as a bell.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

The prevalence of gangs is a direct result of racist law enforcement. Saying "oh simply don't join a gang" is minimizing a difficult decision involving their own safety.

[-] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

I don't think they were saying "don't join a gang, it's so simple!" They're saying "if you don't join a gang, your chances of dying to gun violence goes down" which I can absolutely believe to be true

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The prevalence of gangs is a direct result of racist law enforcement.

Eh, moreso drug prohibition.

Alcohol prohibition way back in the day gave us The Mob. Drug prohibition today gives us gangs.

Legalize and regulate drugs, and 95% of these gangs' funding vanishes. Without their funding, they wither and shrink away to almost nothing.

(Though, to be fair, a lot of motivation for drug prohibition in the first place circles back to racism.)

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Joining a gang can also be a self-preservation tactic against other. I get all that, just trying to unpack why that stat exists.

When gun nuts trot it out, the message is clear. Even GunTubers who don't talk politics will sometimes let it slip into conversation.

this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2026
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