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[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 27 points 2 days ago

It's not just that. Those people are also really really stupid. They don't have the ability to connect any dots. They can hear the dumbest shit straight from Trump's mouth and they don't realize he's an idiot. Where they get the news from is a secondary issue. If you forced them to watch CNN all day they would simply not understand any of it. But yes, they can understand diesel getting expensive the same way a dog can understand a stick. When prices fall they will still not understand why it happened and will go back to voting for racists and homophobes.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 23 points 2 days ago

Actually, they've done studies where they've taken people off Fox News, and had them watch other news, and their political views soften very quickly when exposed to stories they don't hear in the Conservative Propaganda Machine.

I have a business acquaintance who is still an unapologetic MAGA, and he isn't aware of 75% of the crazy shit that's these people do, and when I tell him, he thinks it's all fake, because Trump and MAGA wouldn't do anything bad. He has Fox News playing next to his desk all day long, every day. It's his sole source of news.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

yes, that being his sole source of news makes him stupid

[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

But if I assume people are stupid, I can just feel angry and superior about it. If it's a solvable problem like education and news reform then I have to do work and also recognize that some of what created my views is the luck of my environment.

[-] hamsda@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Honestly, I'm just floored by the fact that "Fox News" is allowed to present itself as a news channel and even have the word "news" in their title.

Quoted from https://factually.co/fact-checks/media/fox-news-defense-no-reasonable-person-take-as-news-entertainment-only-392ed0

Fox News has, in multiple court fights, successfully argued that certain primetime opinion programming is rhetorical, hyperbolic, or “opinion” such that a reasonable viewer would not take specific charged assertions as literal fact, a defense credited by judges in cases including Tucker Carlson’s dismissal in 2020 [1] and described in subsequent coverage [2]. That courtroom strategy — framing provocative programming as not intended or likely to be read as factual reporting — has become a recurring legal tool for hosts and defendants facing defamation suits [3] [4].

Quoted from https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

Now comes the claim that you can't expect to literally believe the words that come out of Carlson's mouth. And that assertion is not coming from Carlson's critics. It's being made by a federal judge in the Southern District of New York and by Fox News's own lawyers in defending Carlson against accusations of slander. It worked, by the way.

The name "Fox News" should either be illegal, or Fox should be forced to constantly have a "this is not a fact but opinion" text somewhere on screen to be easily seen in big letters, or the law should re-asses what a "reasonable audience" is, or maybe ask (at the voting booth) if you believe Fox News and therefore become disqualified from voting, as you're definitely not matching the "reasonable" part.

Them getting away with calling themselves "news" and at the same time arguing that they're "not news, but entertainment and opinion" in court is not just dishonest but straight up evil. If you title yourself as "news", you gotta think about what you say before you open your mouth, as otherwise what you're doing is literally intentionally misrepresenting media.

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