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I really don't want her to run for president yet. I'd rather see her replace schumer first. She is my congresswoman too and am very happy with her. I just fear she might not win presidency yet. Our district is very left wing, so I need to know she can win in a place like New York State that is kind of a microcosm of the whole country
You know this line of thinking results in quite a bit of glass ceiling for women in the workplace.
"Oh no, she might make a mistake, better make her wait."
Meanwhile men are allowed to fail upward and transgressions are quickly forgotten.
She's 37... if she were to become president in '28 and if she were to win 2 terms she'll be an ex-president before she's 50. At that point she'll pretty much be done with politics, other than potentially being pulled out for some crucial election campaigning - but even that is very rare.
She doesn't need to be president, at least not at this point in her career. She's an effective congresswoman, and she'd make an incredible Senator. She doesn't even need to be a leader of either chamber, she just needs to be a consistent champion of progressive values and help grow the progressive coalition in our government.
If she can carry on Bernie's work and help bend our government back towards democratic socialism, then she'd be a great leader for the 2036 election. But she still has too much important work to do now to be distracted by a run for the white house.
JFK was president at 43... Do you think he would have been "done with politics" at 51 if he hadn't been shot in the head?
Yes, I do.
Obama was 55 when he left office, and he's basically sidelined now. He could come back as a senator, congressman, or cabinet... but he hasn't. He's given some speeches (and they are great speeches - he still has access to amazing writers) but he isn't writing laws or shaping policy.
Clinton was 54 when he left office... same thing. He came out at election time and stumped for candidates, but didn't get his hands dirty with the real work
George W was 62, and I don't think he's even stepped on the campaign trail for anyone else.
Why would JFK or AOC be any different?
Those things are politics
Yes, you're right, and I acknowledged that in my original post. It is politics, but it is a very small part of politics and it is very rare for an ex-president to do after serving 2 terms.
I believe that AOC has a lot more potential as an active lawmaker than as a decorative figurehead to be dusted off every 4 to 6 years to come out and read a speech.
That assumes it was about her being a woman rather than her being potentially further left than someone that could win the presidency.
Problem with the office of president is that it is rather singular, so you kind of expect a more milquetoast candidate being able to be accepted by a broader voter base.
Maybe the perspective is wrong and the voter base is ready for a more strongly socialist candidate, but I think it's a reasonable concern to test the waters in a broader scope before going all in on a presidential run. She might be able to win a broader democratic primary but struggle in a general election in a more diverse set of voters.
I personally think the office of the president should be curtailed a bit. We shouldn't have to suffer so much power held by a singular person for four years.
This is so funny to me. Like Republicans will literally run "Reality TV Show Rapist who is the most unhinged thing you've ever seen." and WIN TWICE and the Democrats like you are still out here going "But the median voter wants a moderate voice guys!"
There aren't really many of those, like you should point to a single person that is more left and therefore more popular. Bernie Sanders?
So like again this is a women being held to the standard of surpassing a theoretical man, but the men only have to surpass each other.
I don't think it's reasonable to inject gender into this, the original comment made no indication nor did I that a similarly prinicpled man would not face the same level of skepticism. A house rep who is under 40 and would still be under 40 who hasn't been elected by even a statewide election nor has shown leadership as speaker of the house... That seems a crazy bet to hope to pan out. She has only ever demonstrated proven electorate support in a single district.
Note I had similar skepticism of Buttigieg, trying to be a 30-something Mayor straight to president seemed ill-advised.
I'm acknowledging there is a disparity in the treatment between genders, I'm not doing it myself. You specifically might have an equal standard, but chili cheese lies says barely anything about US politics and the one comment I see reinforces the popular unequal standard.
I agree that if she runs for Senate, that's a good thing and it will put her on the same track as JFK, with maybe more momentum. But just to say, I'd rather she not do X without a different, more popular candidate to contrast with is just not a fair thing to say.
It's absolutely a pattern that women are compared to theoretical men, while men are just compared to each other.
It was the same dog whistle "know her place" comment that comes up on every post about her. Whether they meant it to be or not, it is absolutely about gender.
Honestly, fuck the US Senate.
If AOC wants to be president, her next stop should be the NY governor's mansion. The state could use a politician that has a vision deeper than their back pocketbook. And NY as a laboratory for democracy gives her an opportunity to do at a statewide level what Mamdani is doing in NYC.
Interesting. I never imagined that.
I really don't know why, NYC and California and other blue states can't do an interstate compact and create healthcare for all without the federal government.
We are bigger than most countries as it is, even without California.
It's not an issue of can't. It's an issue of won't.
California could absolutely run it's own healthcare independent of the federal government. So could NY. So could Vermont, ffs.
The problem is simply that it would cost the states money while cutting into private profits for state insurance companies. What - on paper - is taxable income becomes a tax liability. Even as health care becomes cheaper, the accounting math punished individual states by restricting cash flow at the private level.
It's pretty tough for a congressperson to head up the Senate, but who knows?
She doesn't want to replace him. She said so in that video mentioning in the post
America will not vote a latina woman president.
I would!
As for others, I think things have changed and they want a change in the philosophy of our government. I think she has a chance.
Congress has a chance to show people what a little left-wing progress can do for them. They can't squander this chance.
My state just elected our first female governor, sorta. We had a female governor previously, for 11 days, but she was not elected to the office. She became governor when the previous governor resigned.
I mean I would in a heart beat. There are a couple votes that I don't agree with in her career, but she seems like a decent person who wants to do right by the country.
Even if a revolution happened, and she was put forward as potential leader of the new government, I would vote for her on those criteria.
People like yourself need to stop wussing out in advance, imo.