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More info on Lemmy devs being tankies who deny human rights violations: https://kbin.social/m/lemmyworld@lemmy.world/t/47012/-/comment/196579
This is what did it for me. After 3 days of finally getting the hang of Lemmy and figuring shit out I learned about the devs and their beliefs.
I don't want to support humans like that and so I was very grateful to swap to kbin and continue to deepen my learnings of the Fediverse.
Is it all /several of the devs? Or that one guy who said he was a dev?
All of the main devs
what is a tankie?
Bootlickers, of the communist variety. Not very nuanced people. The type of people who deny the atrocities of Soviet era countries, and some are even dumb enough to support North Korea and the current regimes of China and Russia. Some are from troll farms sponsored by those countries.
An apologist for communist dictatorships, who turn a blind eye to - or even justify - their human rights violations.
I didn't realise there was a word for it! Thanks!
Could you please clarify: are you tailking about a particular Lemmy instance, or the entire Lemmy software product?
the entire Lemmy software product
Thank you. That is cause for abandoning Lemmy entirely, for reasons of principle.
Although, ironicall, I don't really see it will make much difference as long as Lemmy is still widely federated.
Yeah, just feels weird using a service made by people with those views.
I find it extraordinarily difficult to identify with boycotting a product for its creator's beliefs, considering the majority of consumer products are directly produced through unethical practices. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, after all. It's about as ridiculous as boycotting Mars because they de-sexified their M&M mascott.
It's just an untenable standard, and from what I can see there's nothing intrinsic about the way lemmy functions that can be tied to those beliefs/impacts your own ability to distance from them. I think this is just noise.
When I have a choice between a platform developed by tankies and one that's not.. I'm gonna choose the one that's not.
I keep trying to upvote this and keep getting an error. So consider this an upvote and agreement.
But doesn't kbin federate with lemmy? Are you OK with that relationship? Seems a little arbitrary to me. If you have an open-source standard for a distributed network, you're not going to avoid associating with someone with unsavory views. The point is that you can control who you federate with anyway.
It's a hill to die on, I guess.