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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 142 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If you're ever at an anti-LGBTQ march "for the children", ask these bigots why they aren't marching against the sexual exploitation of children in local parishes.

They will stutter on their words, I guarantee. Seeing this strategy in action is hilarious and highly effective!

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've asked this question several times.

Name one drag queen who has ever been convicted of grooming and sexually abusing children.

I said to someone once, "There are branches of several international organizations in town that have a centuries old well documented history of grooming and sexually abusing millions of children worldwide then hiding the abuse and moving the abusers to other locations so that they can continue to groom and sexually abuse children. These are the same organizations that are telling you that drag queens are the problem. Why aren't you protesting them? "

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a bold but risky move, I wouldn't bet the argument on someone having dug up some obscure examples. The set of people in drag has to contain at least one, and using a 'gotcha' like that could backfire.

But you're right, they do seem exceedingly rare. Like, weirdly rare compared to the general population, even.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll give them a list of 1,000 clergy who have been convicted and ask them for the name of another drag queen who had been. They will run out of drag queens long before I run out of thousands of clergy.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago
[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

(pedo drag queens) they do seem exceedingly rare

This is because interest in expressing one's fabulousness and interest in abusing kids are radically different things. People become drag queens because they are too fabulous to be contained by a single gender and they have to hold it in with Spanx. People become religious leaders because they are trusted positions of power which can provide an opportunity for them to abuse kids and other vulnerable groups with little risk of consequences.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

I'd like to see SOGI education advocates more explicitly frame their efforts as anti suicide initiatives.

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These were primarily Muslim. But I get your point

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These were primarily Muslim.

Absolutely no difference if we're talking about sexual abuse (including children). There are victims within every religion community, so don't let their deflection deter you.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This link is a pdf that autodownloads just in case people don't want to download some random pdf.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Hmm, loads in a webapp for me (no download). Firefox on Android.