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Rishi Sunak is considering introducing some of the world’s toughest anti-smoking measures that would in effect ban the next generation from ever being able to buy cigarettes, the Guardian has learned.

Whitehall sources said the prime minister was looking at measures similar to those brought in by New Zealand last December. They involved steadily increasing the legal smoking age so tobacco would end up never being sold to anyone born on or after 1 January 2009.

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[–] qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about we let adults make their own decisions. My body my choice.

[–] Huschke@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Generally I agree with you, but with cigarettes you are not making the choice only for yourself. Every time you walk down the street with a cigarette in hand you are forcing other people to inhale it.

I was born in a world without a cigarette ban in restaurants and clubs and the current situation is 1000 time more preferable imo.

[–] qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] FleetingTit@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When people smoke at home with a window open the disgusting smell wafts out into the windows of unsuspecting non-smokers. It can't be helped, smoking needs to be banned.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

When people do all kinds of shit at their homes it affects the surrounding neighborhood. When someone barbecues you can smell it down the street, when someone mows their lawn you hear it down the street, my neighbors were doing a lot of painting last week and I could smell that for a few days. I hate smoking as much as anyone but at a certain point you just have to deal with it.

[–] qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then mandate smokers to smoke in a way that doesn't affect other people. There's plenty of things that can be done so that non-smokers don't have to breath in smoke and smokers can retain autonomy over their bodies. But it's not realy about that, is it? In a world where you pass hundreds smoke spewing machines every time you walk down the street, and every city requires a huge smoke making facility running 24/7 that can turn the whole sky gray if the wind blows the wrong way, cigarette smoke is the least of your worries. What it realy is about is control over other people, taking away their choice and forcing them to conform to your way of life.

[–] Huschke@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I have said it time and time again. Smokers should have to wear those old diving helmets, but made out of glass. That way they can smoke as much as they want and don't bother anyone but themselves!10 years ago people called me crazy, but maybe now we are heading in that direction. :)

[–] Rouxibeau@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Addictive psychoactive substances strip you of choice. Everyone has the same chance and opportunity to start; but many have little to no opportunity to stop.

[–] qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Alcohol, weed, porn, gambling, sex, gaming, candy... can be addictive. Let's ban or strictly limit all of that coz people are too stupid to make their own decisions. Addictive psychoactive substances strip you of choice, so instead we'll have politicians strip you of choice and make decisions for you.

[–] Huschke@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

What's funny is that where I live a lot of the examples you mentioned ARE heavly mandated and limited.

[–] Rouxibeau@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Many of those don't harm another person. If you do it to yourself have fun. Public smoking/alcoholism should be prohibited.