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Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly (twitter.com)
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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

*Because they don't meat the minimum financial and monthly user criterias to be taken into consideration when analyzing the monopoly status of their platform

You forgot to add that part 👍

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they don’t meat the minimum financial and monthly user criterias to be taken into consideration when analyzing the monopoly status of their platform

So Steam does not meet / meat🥩 the financial and monthly user numbers to count as a monopoly? So Steam is not a monopoly then. Great.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the PC videogame market is too small for the European Union to analyse it.

If the local hardware store is the only one selling screws for 100km around and it doesn't show up on their list, does it means they don't have a monopoly or it simply means that they don't bother checking that because the hardware store doesn't:

Make 6.5B a year/doesn't have a market capitalization of 65B

Doesn't have 45m monthly users in the union AND 10k business users in the union

Meets those criterias three years in a row

Because these are the criterias required for the EU to take the time to analyze a companies' position in their market.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the PC videogame market is too small for the European Union to analyse it.

Then please provide ANY form of facts-based analysis that Steam is a monopoly and no "Trust me, bro" isn't that.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The European Union considers some companies to be a monopoly with a smaller market presence than Steam has in the PC video games sales market. That comes from your own source buddy.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That comes from your own source buddy.

You continue to deflect that you have no proof that Steam is a monopoly.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Your whole argument to show that it isn't is based on ignoring their market dominance and referencing the DMA that hasn't even been used to analyze Steam's position in their market because the PC video game market as a whole isn't big enough to be covered by the DMA.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You have no proof that it isn’t either 🤷

The proof, that I already mentioned, is the fact that no antitrust agency anywhere convicted Valve of anything related to monopoly.