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[–] takeda@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Title II had special clause which requires owners of existing infrastructure to lease it to competitors (this was excluding by Wheeler when they reclassified it).

The leasing is what is necessary to enable competition.

We won't get competition if every ISP that wants to enter the market needs to run fiber to every house separately. It is very expensive, and if it wasn't, it is very impractical. Even Google with its "unlimited" capital wasn't able to enter the market. Think about that.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google isn’t a fair comparison, to be clear. They’ve “failed to enter” a large number of markets they were successful in, just not successful enough to make gobs of money.

They kill successful projects regularly, because the ROI isn’t an obscenely high number.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think it is fair. They even had a good plan, which would work if antitrust laws weren't rendered toothless. They started with rural areas that seemed to be forgotten by ISPs. They started providing 1 Gbps at an affordable price.

Suddenly existing ISPs that had 1Mbps services could do 1 Gbps too! And they could do it cheaper too, even under the cost to provide the service. They could do it, because they overcharge their customers everywhere else.

They did that in every city Google Fiber entered.

Not only that, they owned communication wells which Google needed access to to run fiber to customer's homes and were actively blocking from using them.

Google tried different ways, around it and it failed spectacularly, for example: https://gizmodo.com/google-fiber-will-pay-3-8-million-to-fix-roads-marred-1834074398

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah as soon as Google says they were interested in the Portland market, suddenly Comcast had gigabit available and prices went down. Unfortunately, Google gave up after being blocked so much.