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For those who work in companies that subscribe users to emails, when users unsubscribe, what portion of them say they "never signed up for this"? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by snek@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Obviously not looking for hyperaccurate answers, just in general, how many people tend to unsubscribe from promotional emails and how many tick the option "I never signed up for this"?

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[–] Helix@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really think a lot of people here are blowing this out of proportion. I don’t see how whether testing if red or green is better is “evil.”

That's not what I have an issue with. I specifically told you which behaviour I find acceptable and which I don't find acceptable. If you didn't read that, I'll just repeat it for you:

Depends on how you define spam. A few personalised emails (maybe they were missed? happened to me) with an opt out button, an opt in button and a personalised landing page are nothing crazy.

However it becomes crazy when you track mouse movements, send twelve mails in six weeks, employ ‘dark’ surveillance marketing tactics and relentlessly bite the leg of anyone who remotely looks like they can be pressured into a contract.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm willing to bet there are very few sites you interact with that don't use this technology in a way, including Lemmy.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where does Lemmy use this technology? Or did you mean apart from Lemmy there's not many sites?

If I notice sites employing stuff like that which isn't blocked by ublock I will most likely stop using them unless they're insanely useful.

You're not talking to a regular user here. I know how the web works and what tracking and fingerprinting is. Please stop trying to normalise predatory web design practices. You already landed on Lemmy, so you get a taste of what a web without surveillance capitalism could look like.

Maybe think about what tools you really need and what tools don't really give you benefits that outweigh the invasion of privacy of your users.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Lemmy uses Cloudflare Insights on a bunch of instances.

Again, it's not about what I want, if I'm to submit a request to internal IT from the marketing dept to discontinue use of a paid product, I have to submit a legitimate use case as to why the company should abandon it, it's going to look pretty suspicious and eventually someone will ask why we can't do all the stuff we used to do, and there is no business-centric use case to decomission analytics, only a personal preference, which would be at odds to the functions of a standard marketing department.