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Google did it again.

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[–] DarkenLM@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, it's not like it would realistically change the monopoly Google has over the internet. The greatest financial backer of Mozilla is Alphabet and if Firefox starts to gain too much traction, they will simply axe Mozilla and unless they manage to get another backer fast, Alphabet will have THE monopoly over the Internet.

Don't get me wrong, I'm doing my part and using Firefox (when it doesn't constantly crash), but Alphabet's holding way too many strings currently for any change to happen.

[–] itsdavetho@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My understanding is that Google pays Firefox to use Google as the default search engine, which they also pay Apple for the same, so it's a win-win situation and unlikely Google would ever do such (especially since Chrome is already the dominant browser for user base)

[–] DarkenLM@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

We can dream for the day where Alphabet finally loses it's monopoly. It will be a day to be remembered.

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

The FTC is actually suing them right now for that very practice. Google might be forced to stop doing that which would ironically hurt Mozilla/competition.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To stop supporting Firefox would be begging for antitrust investigation (if not in the US then in the EU). Plus Mozilla would probably find another sponsor so all they'd be doing is draw attention to themselves. If it were a large piece of the marketshare at stake I could see it but Firefox is currently at 3-5% (depending on who you ask) so it's not even worth the aggravation.

[–] DarkenLM@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why I included the clause "if Firefox starts to gain too much traction". I agree that currently Firefox is no threat to Google, but if it starts to become, they will strike hard against it.

And unfortunately, antitrust investigations do little against the Titans of Big Tech, just look at what it (didn't) do to Microsoft.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

On the contrary, if Firefox market share were to grow then Mozilla would only be in a better position to negotiate with Google. And the fact they support a rival with a larger share would only strengthen the argument that Google is not monopolistic.

Don't lose sight of the fact that Google's main concern is Search market share, not browser market share. As long as Mozilla agrees to keep Google Search as default Firefox could have 90% market share and Google would still be ok with it.

It's true that browser market share also counts indirectly, because it allows them to influence the technology. If Google rolls out support for something, or withholds support for something, it affects everybody and can make or kill any particular piece of tech.

Browser engine dominance will come under scrutiny (and it will be a deep and fascinating rabbit hole), but later. Right now it's about Search.

[–] DarkenLM@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago