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[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Are you going to like sit down restaurants in America though?... cuz those people make around $3 an hour most places with no benefits. I don't approve of the system but please don't go to a fine dining establishment and stiff the waiter. It's fucked up.

[–] n0clue@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They make minimum wage, if you make more than minimum with tips you make $3 or whatever plus your tips, if you don't get any tips your employer covers the difference.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago

While this is absolutely correct, it should be noted that if you don't make enough in tips you're probably going to get fired and replaced, haha

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

Minimum wage isn't even close to survivable in most states...

[–] Goo_bubbs@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Minimum wage, which is $7.25/hour, and not even close to the bare minimum to be able to survive, because it hasn't been raised in nearly 15 years!

Fuck off with that logic. If you go to a nice restaurant in the U.S. and you don't tip, you're a fucking scumbag. No doubt.

[–] Shush@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Minimum wage, which is $7.25/hour, and not even close to the bare minimum to be able to survive, because it hasn't been raised in nearly 15 years!

This is the real issue and the core of it that needs to be fixed. That is unacceptable. People should pressure for raising the minimum wage to livable terms instead of using roundabout systems that don't fix the issue and just shifts it around.

[–] Goo_bubbs@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, it's a huge problem. Yet, here in the U.S., Biden tried to raise the minimum wage to $15/hour when he first got in office and Republicans shot him down. Our problem is that we have an entire political party that is hellbent on harming the average person at every turn, and we have too many uneducated, misinformed people voting for them to do it.

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah. If the service is great I'll give 15% and that's about it.

If the service is anything less, no tip. Like why would I give extra beyond what my meal costs for no reason?

[–] Goo_bubbs@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago
  1. 15% is low. So, what you're saying is that you're always a bad tipper.

  2. There are tons of factors that can make a good server give bad service. A kitchen that's lagging behind, for example, is totally out of their control. Another table that demands a lot of attention can also throw off service. You've clearly never worked in a restaurant.

  3. Most people tip because they're not heartless. I don't think their reasoning applies to you.

[–] Slabic@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Not American. But even if I were, no I wouldn't tip. It's not my responsibility to pay someone's wage while the business opens up at another 2 locations in my city