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[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think it's quite fair to unload on genZ about self diagnosis when access to medical care is restricted and understaffed as it is here in America. Another way to see it is at least genZ is concerned with their mental health and concerned enough about other people's that theyve set to normalizing it.

I'm sure if therapy were blanket covered by insurance than 9 out of 10 people wouldve gone by now. All those numbers are only indicative of how many people could afford, what's often considered elective, medical care.

And then how many received a diagnosis just so the doctor knew they'd get paid? $$$ in medicine fucks up all our stats, which fucks up all the conclusions we draw from them.

[–] harmonea@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's really not my problem that you viewed me pointing out 53 < 60 as "unloading."

And "normalizing" having a serious disorder is dangerous. This is not behavior that should be applauded. It dilutes the experience of those who do have it and saps the available resources. Again, not "unloading," just facts that can be verified with any professional in the field. None of this is coming from emotion.

Going to therapy is good. Absolutely, yes, 90% should go. At no point did I shame therapy, I just pointed out the numbers don't line up and it proves there is definitely self-diagnosis going on.

[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not lambasting you or even arguing with your first two paragraphs here. I agree with you, to be clear. I dont even see the point in chiming in on the mental disorder "collectors", it just feels exactly like boomers telling me "I ruined everything" as a millennial. genZ doing stupid shit as teenagers, let it go, they were teenagers. We got lucky that Tom was a true homie and wiped Myspace on his way out the door. Let the kids have tictok while they still know everything. They'll come to terms with reality when they have to, just like we did. I don't see the point in holding this kind of thing over their heads.

And if you feel you aren't, great. But enough people do and you're just adding to the chorus. Just be aware of the company youre keeping, all I'm saying.

In the 50s-70s kids identified with car culture. In the 80s-90s kids identified and differentiated thru music. I can't even tell you what kids do now, I'm not at an age, or profession, to be interested in that knowledge. Teens rebel. They're smart enough to start shouldering some responsibility but society keeps them from utilizing their agency. Social media gives them some of that agency back, even if it is for dumb shit like eating tidepods. Some kids HAVE to touch the stove. Some kids learn by jumping in the deep end (right here, I did that). Theyre in the process of discovery. There's always been clicks, it's part of how we figure out who and what we are.

Beyond that, going to, or worse, NEEDING (GASP!) therapy IS shamed, even if you aren't doing it.

Not just shamed for some, but detrimental, to most men's careers.

Any high stress job, surgeon, police, law, there goes your chances of advancement.

Because for some reason accepting the fact that people don't have all the necessary tools to process every situation in life is seen as some kind of failing, even tho entire fields of study are dedicated to it.

Getting therapy should be seen as nothing more than going to an expert, because you are smart enough to know you aren't. Which makes it the smarter, more rational decision. People are complicated and obtuse. And language, while pretty amazing at some stuff really falls flat for most everything internal. It takes specialization. People dedicate their lives to JUST that. That entire train of thought needs normalization, universal promotion, and access commodified, as well as made mandatory for said, and unsaid, high stress professions.