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Not sure why this got removed from 196lemmy..blahaj.zone but it would be real nice if moderation on Lemmy gave you some sort of notification of what you did wrong. Like an automatic DM or something

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[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im not sure about that. Many animals show a sense of morality. The difficulty, i think, comes from the need to ascribe morals to everything we do and to find nuance that confuses the fundamental tenants of morality. At a basic level there are some things that many animals other than humans inherently know are good or bad.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Like what?

The capability, in other animals, to determine something as positive, negative or neutral only serves to demonstrate that we, humans, are only another organism built with previously tried and proved strategies, with a few added innovative add-ons.

Morality is a human creation and concern, built upon biological strategies previously developed and implemented in many life forms.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6404642/#:~:text=The%20empirical%20evidence%20gathered%20until,or%20even%20a%20direct%20loss.

There's a good amount of information on this article. Near the top, they list and cite instances where moral behaviour had been observed in animals. Where no apparent gain or loss occurs for the one behaving morally.

I understand your point of view, but you present as fact something that is currently highly debated theory. I try to posit only my views and opinions and try to avoid conflating them with facts.

I guess it's better to attempt to philosophise when dealing with our views on morality.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

"moral" and "morality" in that article is clearly a human construction, into which ties the notion of ethics, which is again a human construct

What is clearly pointed are several instances where selfless behavior was observed in diferent life forms, from birds to mammals, including primates.