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Because they are the same underlying condition, only presented at different levels of impediment.
Diagnosis works the same, treatment is the same, it's mostly the amount of support needed that differs.
And always worth remembering that Hans Asperger was a massive Nazi and part of the reason he originally made the distinction was to separate those children in his care who could be sent to work camps from those who were to be sent straight to be euthanised.
Where can I find more information about that being the reasoning for the diagnosis difference?
On the "massive nazi" claims: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5907291/
On why autism research professionals find his name association "vexing" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5907469/
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See, for example, this (and in particular the book it references if you really want to dig into the weeds).
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Can we stop fucking up terminology please? Asperger was not a Nazi. A nazi is a member of the NSDAP and Asperger never was a member. He was, however, absolutely an opportunist.
We have to finally stop to view people's doings in other times from our point of view. Asperger was most certainly not a hero but he did save a bunch of children who were deemed socially unacceptable by giving them a diagnosis and humane treatment. What do you think would have been their future without him?
Sorry, nobody understands that word in such narrow terms. A nazi is someone who promotes Nazi objectives and Nazi ideology. If the claims on his Wikipedia page are fair, then Asberger was absolutely and enthusiastically a nazi.
He absolutely was a nationalist and he was a proponent of eugenics which, at the time, was quite common. In that regard you might want to look up Alexander Bell for example.
Even Herwig Czech says in his paper (that has been linked in this thread) that he was not a member of the Nazi party but an opportunist. There is a difference and it is an important one.