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US's Blinken says no to any Ukraine peace deal that doesn't include total Russian withdrawal (apnews.com)
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“We believe the prerequisite for meaningful diplomacy and real peace is a stronger Ukraine, capable of deterring and defending against any future aggression,” Blinken said in a speech in Finland, which recently became NATO’s newest member and shares a long border with Russia.

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[–] DarraignTheSane@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then you are morally okay with Ukraine being wiped off the map and the murder of as many of its citizen as Putin's army can manage.

[–] Tretiak@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Dude, do you honestly think Putin is trying to militarily annihilate Ukraine? Especially when he considers Russians and Ukrainians to share the same cultural lineage and history. He made numerous overtures to try and 'avoid' a conflict from breaking out. Why was the west so adamantly against laying the framework for a security arrangement that made sense for all the parties involved?

[–] DarraignTheSane@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He made numerous overtures to try and ‘avoid’ a conflict from breaking out.

Putin: "If you allow this country to have protection from me invading it, I'm going to invade it."
U.S.: "Yeah... we're going to consider allowing them protection from you."
Putin: "Oh no... somebody stop me from invading this other country...! Here I go, I'm gonna invaaaade..."
U.S.: "Okay."
[Putin invades Ukraine, begins murdering Ukrainians]
U.S., months later: "Alright that's enough, we're going to help these Ukranians to keep you from murdering them."
Putin and his sheep: "tHe U.S. iS wArMoNgErInG!!!1!!"

[–] Tretiak@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What do you think the Minsk Accords were?

[–] DarraignTheSane@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Further acquiescence to a terrorist country's demands?

[–] JasBC@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Non-binding treaties negotiated under duress that all fell apart the moment the ink was put to paper, through which Russia tried to control Ukrainian internal affairs?