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Foreign Minister Penny Wong says Israel has a right to defend itself, and judging its security decisions from a distance is "very difficult", as Israel's government vows to cut off food and water to the blockaded Gaza Strip.

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[–] spiderplant@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh I'm sorry I can't support Palestine because they won't lie down and die

Imagine only supporting oppressed peoples when they don't fight their oppressors.

If your support is conditional you are not supporting.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A bunch of teenagers at a music festival are not "their oppressors".

[–] spiderplant@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

There were two 'Reigns of Terror,' if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the 'horrors' of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break?

What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror--that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.

Mark Twain

[–] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A bunch of rich kids partying on land pissing distance from the walls erected to lock in 2 million Palestinians, which was stolen from those Palestinians grandparents, are most definitely the fucken oppressors here mate.

Especially when you throw in compulsory military service

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or, as the Bolshevik who bayoneted the Romanov children put it, “nits grow up to be lice”

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It wasn't stolen from them, what is currently Israel was British territory prior to ww2.

[–] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Administered by Britain but owned by Palestinians

[–] WendyMsGator@aus.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Ilovethebomb @0ddysseus

And Britain never stole anything from anyone, right?

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago

If you go back far enough with that line of reasoning, you end up back at Jewish territory anyway.

So really, they just gave it back to the original owners.

[–] Garper@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Oh I suppose then it should be given back to the native British then.