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[–] blueskiesoc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"if those people turn out to be decent and moral"

Who decides? Yikes.

[–] Willer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Rephrase it to: fit for our justice system

[–] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

‘Not a rapist, tax cheat, or murderer’ seems like a pretty low bar that most could manage to get over.

[–] teuast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Which is itself fine, until you take into account the long and ongoing history of the way that immigrants, marginalized demographics, and particularly immigrants from marginalized groups are treated by our justice system, whether or not they've actually committed a serious crime or any crime at all.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've started rolling my eyes at "Who decides?" prompts. Whether it's judging people, interpreting laws, etc.

PEOPLE. People process your grocery purchase at checkout, and verify you found everything okay. People determine whether the charge of murder is substantially proven and justified. People evaluate a person's immigration application.

This is not a brand new science. Fallible, sure. Imperfect, sure. Useless, absolutely not.

[–] blueskiesoc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you for responding. My "who decides" comment was an unuseful shortand for what I wanted to express, which is that I don't have much trust in our institutions to carry out the will of the people.