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[–] drewdarko@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

More like saying “EVs are bad because lithium is mined by children”.

Then when it is proven that it is not mined, let alone by children, you linking to an article of some rare method of mining spodumene that isn’t done by children and you pretending that is what the discussion is about.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was answering your message, I'm not the person that talked about children in the first place, you're message was "it's not mined AND its not done by children", that's two separate affirmations, I only replied to the first one yet you keep bringing up the second one.

Mining is one way Lithium is produced, therefore you were wrong. Doesn't matter that it's rare, your first point was that it doesn't happen at all, which is false.

[–] drewdarko@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You inserted yourself into a conversation about how “EVs are bad because children have to mine lithium to make them”.

You’re trying to change the subject to ‘look I found this rare method of mining something that is not lithium, it doesn’t matter that it is rare in the context of the manufacturing of all EVs’.

That is like saying ‘I don’t need to work for a living because look at this rare example of someone winning the lottery’.

Context matters.

Spodumene is not lithium.

Your rare example of mining some thing that is not lithium isn’t relevant in a discussion about children mining lithium for EVs.

You’re trying to argue semantics in bad faith.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"That thing we mine to produce lithium doesn't count as humans mining to produce lithium."

[–] drewdarko@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You:

“If you ignore the fact that spodumene isn’t lithium…

and the fact that children aren’t mining it…

and the fact that it isn’t happening enough to be relevant to the conversation…

Then I’m totally right!”

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/92bfcdec-de10-4581-bfc1-7d136e3ae9ca.webp

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spodumene

Spodumene is a pyroxene mineral consisting of lithium aluminium inosilicate, LiAl(SiO3)2

What's that? The lithium is inside the mineral that's... Mined?

As of 2019, around half of lithium is extracted from mineral ores, which mainly consist of spodumene.

Damn, that's very rare, isn't it?