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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 109 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

While I see the point they're trying to make, what this person is actually saying is complete nonsense.

Graceful degradation is not the opposite of planned obsolescence they're two completely different concepts with nothing to do with each other.

Graceful degradation is where a product degrades in such a way as to maintain at least some functionality for as long as possible.

Planned obsolescence is where an item is intentionally designed to fail in order to get you to buy the next version.

Completely different concepts.

The actual opposite of graceful degradation, is progressive enhancement.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago

Yes, you could have both ideas in the same product: it retains some functionality as it fails, but it fails in a planned way to ensure it's lifespan is short enough.

[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And oddly, the example of the flashlight isn’t even an example of either. Support for heterogeneous batteries is a feature, but it’s a stretch to call it “degradation”. It’s not like batteries fail randomly before they run out of juice.

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

The degradation in this case happens in the brain when you're trying to remember which type of batteries you need

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like the opposite is your multifunction refusing to scan because it needs ink.

[–] p1mrx@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Lev_Astov@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Malicious degredation.

[–] pm_your_fav_recipe@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd argue that if you changed the wording of the post "progressive enhancement" could be used to describe the same concept

As in : progressive enhancement is when the more you add batteries to a flashlight the better it works.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It hits slightly different though.

For example graceful degradation could be considered when a device can have different components fail but the rest still work.

Progressive enhancement can be considered to be a device with basic functionality with optional add-ons.

It's basically about the base getting less functional, versus the baseline being upgraded. From a certain point of view they are the same thing but realistically they're not.

If I have a device with an optional add-on and I don't actually have that add-on installed, I wouldn't say the device is "degraded", even though technologically it probably doesn't make much difference.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

As opposed to progressive enhancement as the product ages (features added with firmware updates etc.)