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[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's hard to think of anything particularly effective

A communist revolution. And don't give me that "they didn't know" crap, there were communists fighting the good fight back then.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey man, I love communism as much as any far left lemmy user, but can you explain how a communist revolution would have impacted climate change?

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The primary motive to pollute was the profit motive of fossil fuel companies, and automotive manufacturers. Today, the biggest argument against closing mines is jobs, and the biggest argument for cars is getting to work. A communist system has universal basic income. Better planned neighbourhoods such as the Soviet 15 minute cities would also reduce transport emissions, though the soviets were not communist. There should exist no such thing as mining or energy companies, and under communism, that's the case.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm. Under communism, even with UBI, people would still have jobs, or hobbies, or would go on road trips or vacations, so you'd still have people driving cars.

I agree that better, more walkable city planning and functional public transit is important for reversing climate change, but lots of people think that, not just communists. I don't see what a communist revolution has to do with that - even your example is of Soviet cities, not communist cities.

And even if there are not energy companies under communism, there still need to be power plants, electricity would still need to be generated. What about communism would make those power plants be powered by renewables instead of coal?

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Isn't it obvious that a people who work to better society would do more altruistic work?