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[–] erranto@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have freedom of the press, but no freedom of speech they way it is guaranteed through the US constitution. in fact they have laws against hate speech and antisemitism.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Interesting, it would seem one can support a Palestinian state and oppose retaliation against innocent Palestinian civilians for the actions of an extremist group without being engaged in hate speech or antisemitism, however much the west really struggles with this concept.

[–] erranto@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They know which side they stand on and they want all their citizens to align to it.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If that’s their justification then did they forget what democracy is about? It’s quite literally the opposite of having the government determine the people’s stance.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

They're democratic, just not particularly pluralistic. Everybody's gotta be culturally French, very tyranny of the majority types.

[–] jnplch@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago

Because it’s a stick to beat Muslim citizens with. It’s what all conservative French governments have been doing for the last 15 years, more or less openly depending on Le Pen’s (father or daughter) polling numbers. Darmanin is about as anti-Muslim pro-police-state as they come.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

"Freedom of speech" as it's known in the US is slightly misnamed. It's more accurately "freedom from government regulation of speech", and the EU doesn't really have the same protections.