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I guess not strictly news - but with all of the vitriol I have seen in discussions on the Israel situation, that have boiled down to arguments over wording, I feel that this take from the BBC is worthy of some discussion.

Mods, feel free to remove if this is not newsy enough.

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[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's a very one-sided genocide. It's just plain ridiculous to equate the two sides when it was Zionists who stormed the Arab mandate in 1947, Zionists (and later, Israel) who created hundreds of thousands of refugees with millions still stuck in miserable camps on the borders, Israel who has kept Palestinians under brutal occupation and blockade since 1967, and Israel who bombs densely populated cities with fighter jets while the brand new Hamas air force is using hang-gliders powered by fans.

It's such a difficult thing to explain to people whose primary exposure to the conflict is through the Western media but these accounts, by two Palestinian and Israeli non-violent activists, are well worth a read. Unfortunately I can't find the original transcripts so it's a google books extract and is missing some of George's testimony.

[–] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My man colonialism created India and Pakistan but if Pakistan started slaughtering Indian civilians that would still be Pakistan's responsibility.

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seem to have replied to the wrong comment. Or Lemmy is fucking up the indexing.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Either is possible.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's not a suffering Olympics. Yes, the history is tumultuous, and yes, the State of Israel has more than likely caused way more suffering to Palestinians than Hamas has to Israelis. But that's besides the point. The point is, civilians on both sides are now paying the price. No one wants to get shot at or bombed, and support for either side's civilian population is NOT tacit support of the militants of the opposite side.