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Now this is funny because my dog only has the rabies vaccine and we get her titrated and only updated when the titer is low. We don't get many other ones. Why? Well she reacts badly but our dog is a special case. Our dog has some insane levels of food allergies. Her test showed up rice. Rice. Our vet was like rice is never an allergy but that is one of the ones her testing showed. It helped us a lot because she was having diarrhea like crazy and we were told to feed her chicken and rice and it was not getting any better. We ended up putting her on hydrolyzed food ad we could find no anti alergen food that was ok. Its not surprising as besides rise she showed reactions to pretty much all meat and some other common ingredients. She does not even do well on the dry hydrolyzed food and just barely on the wet. We actually end up cooking the wet and she does pretty ok on that. She does get poop pills for her biome which is sorta back and forth. She reacts a bit to them that day but then it helps for the rest of the week (our theory is the donor dogs have something in their diet that survives digestion and she reacts a bit to it). Ok so where am I going with this. Its that in general the OP is right but there are a few folks who legitamately has a dog that has issues with it. but they went through a lot and have done tests to find out why. but just because you here about this one special needs dog does not mean the majority of the healthy dog population is fine with it. All of our other many dogs have gotten pretty much everything available and its been great. So not everyone heres something on the internet and just feel it applies to all dogs or their dog for some reason. some dogs legitametly have issues. All the same I hate that stories like this might get twisted by wierd follks who think vaccines are bad. They are great. I am happy I was born late enough in the 1900's to avoid the majority of human history where epidemics was just a regular thing. Rather than a rare occurrence that was pretty much handled in two or three years.
Fair enough. There are special cases. But they are very rare. The vast, vast majority of dogs can tolerate vaccines.
This is also true in humans, by the way. There are very rare cases of humans, generally with allergy issues, who can't take common vaccines. But in general, you should vaccinate yourself and you should vaccinate your pets.
yes this is what I was trying to get at. I think a lot of the vaccine denial crap use examples of edge cases. folks that have medical issues that do not apply to the vast majority. Most people live their lives without ever owning a dog like this. And we still get the rabies if her titer shows down (as long as she has not had diarrhea in awhile we and her can handle a few days of it.). We just go through the additional expense of the titer and oh man ticks are the worst. She never gets to go to brushy or forested areas and gets regular tick checks and when we have found them we remove them and get them sent off for testing which is more expense. If I could snap my fingers and have her healthy like all the rest of our dogs I certainly would.
Antivaxxers also use a ton of correlation, like the timing of autism becoming noticeable for most kids and certain scheduled shots. Combined with edge cases and absolutely no sense of scale and people not remembering most of the diseases that vaccines have made extremely rare, it is easy for people to ignore the safety and successes.
Your very first line, followed by the block of text with no paragraph breaks, make it sound like you're telling everyone your dog has rabies (the actual disease, not the vaccine for rabies).
Just a FYI, but might explain your downvotes if people didn't read further than "rabies".
I did my part and auto-downvote walls of text.
thanks. I tend to write casually so will write in context which is really bad for the internet as folks do tend to read or even only see some of the pieces. Im pretty sure this has caused a bunch of back and forths I have had where I keep on saying you are taking this one part and not looking at the whole converstaion. I love the federation but I have seen how often I can only see a subset of various areas. Ended up making a bunch of duplicate posts to one magazine because I could not see the posts I just had made. Later I saw them when logged out.
Yup, my father in law has doctor's orders not to get a bunch of vaccines because of a really horrible outcome from a flu vaccine about a decade ago. At his age we have to be really firm with other medical staff that he not get the flu or covid vaccines because of the risk of real side effects for him specifically.
The rest of us all have our shots because we know they are safe and effective for almost everyone. Except for the extremely rare exceptions.
oh yeah and its super important all of you have them to protect him. Whats the worst in that situation is having a family member who drinks the coolaide and puts grampa at risk.
They exist, but we make sure that they call instead of visit.
My dog is allergic to the rabies shot but her vet gives it to her in two doses and we load her up on benedryl before the shot. And I do the same for a few of my own vaccines due to my own allergies. The work around isn't perfect but I'm glad to have options. Some vaccines are just worth the risk.
yeah we do benedryl as well and that tends to help. We tend to use it when she has any iffy stuff like the poop pills or if she eats something off the ground.
That's the right thing to do even with your dog's situation. A few days of dog discomfort is sad to watch, but rabies is much, much worse.