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NY bill would require a criminal history background check for the purchase of a 3D printer::Requires a criminal history background check for the purchase of a three-dimensional printer capable of creating firearms; prohibits sale to a person who would be disqualified on the basis of criminal history from being granted a license to possess a firearm.

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[–] spark947@lemm.ee 72 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Silly. Why can't we just regulated the sale of ammunition and gunpowder?

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 year ago

Why? It’s not guns and bullets killing people, it’s 3D printing 🙃

[–] GeekyNerdyNerd@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We do actually. Just last year new york passed the Concealed Carry Improvement act imposing a background check on ammunition purchases. This bill is completely redundant and unnecessary.

[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Redundant, you say?

How else are corporations going to limit things like "right to repair" and sales, when people can print their own replacement parts or print stuff they would otherwise have to buy?

Think of the profits! /s

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Also, how else do you expect politicians to score easy points by "cracking down on gun violence" while wasting taxpayer resources and legislative time/effort? Won't you think of the poor kids going to school in the literal war zone of the public school system?


For the record, common sense gun control laws are important (opinions are what these entail are welcome to vary). The issue is that most of the US already has such laws thoroughly in place yet people and politicians like to act like they don't exist every time a tragedy occurs. I'm sure there's exceptions, but the grand majoroty of the time a politician starts blathering about tightening gun control laws a cursory search shows plenty on the books for their jurisdiction.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

NY is the shining example of the simple creation of a law being enough to entirely extinguish any criminal activity related to it in the entire jurisdiction. This one is so incredibly powerful, in fact, that the very second it goes into effect, the whole state of NY will be unable to cross state lines to acquire said devil boxes, nor even use a VPN to make such a purchase online. Also, sharks are smooth.

[–] cheesemoo@lemmy.conk.me 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's actually an excellent point about sharks that many people don't realize. I'm petting one right now and it feels like the softest silk.

No direction is taboo, they're smoother than vanta is black 🦈

[–] spark947@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I'm all for preventative laws if they are good policy. This isn't good policy.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why can't we just regulated the sale of ammunition and gunpowder?

Or at least the gun parts needed to make a "3d printed" gun actually function as a firearm.

[–] nomecks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can make a completely 3D printed gun that will survive at least one shot. I'm sure if you're using resin or carbon fiber reinforced plastic so you could probably get more than one shot off.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Resin is generally more brittle than filament, FYI, and the real question with most 3D-printed firearms is whether the shooter survives "at least one shot".

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most 3d printed guns are either redesigns of existing guns replacing non pressure bearing parts with printed parts (look up FMDA17 a 3D printed Glock 17 equivalent) or mostly printed with pressure bearing parts being barstock or pipes (see FGC-9).

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not really sure where you're getting "Most 3D-printed guns", but here's one of the top communities of such. You'll see quite clearly that MSLA is not the preferred method for production, parts or otherwise.

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't claiming MSLA was preferred I was commenting in reference to the latter half of the comment. Most 3DP firearms last much more than a single round because they incorporate metal components where important.

I'm familiar with Defcad, but would recommend The Gatalog over it.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, hey, thanks! I'm new to the concept and my interest is design adjacent: modded Nerf/airsoft arms, so I'm largely unaware of the intricacies of actual firearms printing — though, I'll give Gatalog a look, fo sho 🤙🏼

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In that case you might want to check out Booligan Shooting Sports on YouTube (he took a similar trajectory as you), Fuddbusters, and Ivanprintsguns also have some 3D2A content.

Hot damn! That's awesome, thanks!! 🤘🏼🤓

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

That may usually survive that one shot.

Or it may fail and cause damage to the person foolish enough to be weilding it.

[–] pushECX@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Receivers are already regulated

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Receivers are usually the main part that's 3d Printed, that's the problem.