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[-] spark947@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

You could have said the same thing 70 years ago about the leader if mandatory Palestine who was appointed by the British colonizers and collaborated with Nazis, and that a group like Irgun bravely fought against them. The same Irgun that carried out the Deir Yassin massacre.

What Israel's government is doing is wrong, and they should pay for it. And Israel should pay reparations. But the majority of Israeli's, Palestinians, and American Jews and Muslims just want peace man. This whole thing about who colonized who is silly.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

This whole thing about who colonized who is silly.

Yeah.

So silly.

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Jews deserve reparations from the Ottoman empire.

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The difference is Israel still exists, holding Palestine back, it's not even about reparations but stopping the actions on-going today, not just about righting wrongs from the past.

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Reparations are crucial in stopping current unjust policies. That is something I believe anyway. A government can't actively acknowledge the existence of injustice as simultaneously support policy that perpetuates it. That is one of the reasons why governments are so reluctant to pay reparations in the first place.

For Israel's continued existence as a state, it is crucial that they pay reparations. This might mean that a few Jewish American young adults might not get to go on a free vacation to Israel, but so be it.

[-] Chunk@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

But we live today, not 70 years ago.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 years ago

Lol today is the result of 70 years ago. Actions don't just stop affecting people's lives because they happened a long time ago. We couldn't possibly live or do anything if we thought that way.

[-] spark947@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago

Yes, Israel has responsibility to pay reparations. I have fought for that tirelessly in many ways. I just don't like being called a colonizers when I have never even been there.

[-] Satelllliiiiiiiteeee@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

I just don’t like being called a colonizers

Then don't support colonizers. It's pretty easy.

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Read through my post history where I have repeatedly condemned the Israeli govt. And then let me know if you think I "support colonizers".

I'm very frustrated that leftists can't frame evil in the world as anything other than the "forces of colonization". It's a very complete and utter misunderstanding of world history and politics.

[-] Chunk@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

This whole thing about who colonized who is silly.

This should be whom. Better luck next time!

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