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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 58 points 3 years ago

Registered to vote, told this story to the Bernie Sanders campaign, told it again for 4 days at the HLTH 2023 conference in Vegas. And I'll keep telling it until something changes...

[-] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 points 3 years ago

Yeah and Sanders dropped out and we got fucking Biden. And people defend Biden because he's not Trump. Nothing's going to change now that Trump took over the Republican party, because why the fuck should Democrats try to do better? All that matters to voters is that Democrats are not Trump.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago

It was rough when Bernie had his own heart event, and I use the word "event" because it sounds more festive.

I told my wife "Well, he's done." Even if he has the energy to be President, nobody will vote for someone with a heart condition.

It's a tough thing to recover from, even now, five years later, I don't have the energy, focus, or acuity I had from before. :(

[-] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

I feel bad for him, really I do. And I'm sorry to hear your story as well.

I'm just frustrated that Biden is the best we can do against Trump now, and nobody seems to care because he's not Trump. We need to do better than this, but every time I bring up the Democrats' shortcomings, the response I get is always "Doesn't matter because Trump exists!" or they assume I'm a Trump supporter.

I'm afraid that now that Trump exists, Democrats are just going to stop trying to do anything like universal healthcare. Hell, they couldn't even be bothered to codify Roe.

[-] jasondj@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 years ago

Trump is splintering his party though. Progress can’t happen as long as he’s around, Democrats have to pick up “moderates” (on the US Scale) and that puts everything else on pause. Pushing a progressive agenda now would just amplify Trump and potentially pull those moderates to him.

[-] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 3 years ago

And this is why I keep saying the political binary is the real issue with this country.

[-] jasondj@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago

If we need more parties and more voices, then we need voting reform. FPTP always devolves down to two primary parties. Any secondary party would just be spoiler candidates.

[-] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 3 years ago

Ain't that the truth. As it stands now, I get called either a Nazi or a Libtard depending on who I'm talking to. It's frustrating. Both sides will accept mediocrity as long as the other side doesn't win.

[-] jasondj@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 years ago

And that’s why it suits the Democratic Party to tone down the progressive wing and focus on attracting moderates. If Donald breaks his party in two, then we’ll have a repeat of Perot in 96 or Nader in 2000. In both cases there were plenty of votes for the alternative candidate just in a few key districts that would have totally flipped those respective elections had they gone to the first-party candidate more closely aligned with them.

[-] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 years ago

I hate to say this, but you are asking for meaningful change in a trillion dollar industry. It's not going to happen through stories, public awareness, or by any other peaceful means.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 17 points 3 years ago

I survived open heart surgery, telling my story is the only action I can take these days. :)

[-] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago

We need EVERYBODY like you telling their story

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago

That's why I partnered with a company called Savvy Coop and was invited to the HLTH 2023 conference in Las Vegas last week.

I had many good meetings with providers and health companies telling my story and our team was maybe a dozen or so patients with multiple medical conditions.

It's getting out there. I'll be on a podcast tomorrow.

[-] Bizarroland@kbin.social 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

So what, they should just give up? No. Change will happen as more and more people resist the status quo.

It may seem slow, it may be painful, it may feel like it's never going to actually work but you've got to keep going because one day and all of a sudden it will.

[-] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

Of course they shouldn't give up! I'm just saying, that's not going to be enough.

It may seem slow, it may seem painful, it may feel like it's never going to actually work but you've got to keep going because one day and all of a sudden will.

You're deluding yourself. The wealthy will NEVER part with that much money willingly.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago

Who said anything about them doing it willingly?

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago

They won't part with money for 9/11 responders dying from cancer, the rest of us have no hope.

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