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[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So Hamas who want to commit genocide but fail at it are not genocidal. But Israel which could easily commit genocide but doesn't do it is genocidal?

[–] alienzx@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look up the definition. Israel is currently commiting genocide. Not denying that hamas didn't want to, but they aren't in a position to do so and never will be.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Definition of genocide:

the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

The aim of Israel isn't to destroy Palestine or kill all Palestinians. They definitely want to destroy Hamas, maybe they want to take over Gaza. While their tactics are inhumane and kill many Palestinians, I don't see how you could argue their real goal is to kill Palestinian as an ethnicity. Abou 20 % of the citizens in Israel are Palestinian. And they also do not attack the Westbank.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

who said Israel doesn't commit genocide? just by numbers, if Hamas had committed genocide Israel would have done so 10 times sooner

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Genocide isn't about numbers though. A genocide means your goal is to kill everyone from a certain ethnicity. With currently 20 % of citizens in Israel being Palestinian and no attacks on the Westbank I can't see how you would argue the goal and reason for the war is that Israel wants to kill everyone with Palestinian ethnicity?

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

West bank settlers are currently just shooting Palestinians while being protected by the government, and no, you actually need to be able to kill the people to call it genocide,