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[–] spriteblood@kbin.social 157 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Updated headline:
Does violate gag order, justice system to do nothing about it because rules don't apply to the wealthy

[–] FrostyTrichs@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As it turns out he may not be wealthy either lol.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's does not violate the very narrow gag order set by Justice Engoron, because AG James is not "court staff." That doesn't make it legal, doxxing could be charged in either New York State or Federal court (because James is a State employee, and an "officer of the law").

But it won't. Nothing is going to happen.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Imprisoning a former president for contempt of court, even as blatant as this, is always going to be a topic of skittishness among the judges.

This is an institution that typically loathes setting new precedent when it can avoid it, and imprisoning a former president, one who is running again especially, is a Rubicon that is going to intimidate even the most tough on corruption judge you can have on that bench.

The sheer unprecedentedness of this case and the others involving trump are gonna go snails pace simply because of how freaked out the judges will be over making sure every i and t have been dotted and crossed.

[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

They're setting a precedent either way.

Either hold decorum over the individual or abandon it.

How Trump acts, and what he is allowed to get away with, is carte blanche for his followers paying attention.

If you want to be wealthy, act like the wealthy, right?

The judges either have spines or they don't. In that same vein, we either have laws that apply equally, or we don't have respect for the law across the board.

This is remedial psychology.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As much as my justice boner is deflated by this statement, I'd rather have Trump convicted by a jury while having a competent attorney making smart decisions and defending him zealously. The last thing I want is his conviction to be overturned because someone took a shortcut.

[–] Case@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago

Why? The law should be applied equally, prince or pauper.

I don't give a fuck about tradition and precedent - a traitor as the head of the nation is unprecedented too.

Gather evidence, make a case, throw the book at him - with stiffer sentencing solely because as a former president, he SHOULD be held to a higher standard.

Just like cops should be held to a higher standard than a civilian, but I digress.

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Well I'd personally love to see Trump get so many things that are coming to him for his many criminal activities, the gag order they're referencing was only applied narrowly to him speaking about court staff. Letitia James is not court staff, so he hasn't actually broken that gag order at least as written currently. But it's obvious stochastic terrorism per his usual mo. And any other person would have the book thrown at them for this by the judge, gag order or no gag order.