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All 10 of the largest U.S. meat and dairy companies have lobbied against environmental and climate policies, resisting climate regulations, including rules on greenhouse gases and emissions reporting. This is according to a study by New York University, which examined the political influence of the 10 largest meat and dairy companies in the United States.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Holy misleading headline, Batman!

I'm not saying that there isn't a problem with the industries, but the 10 largest in one country is NOT "100% of all meat and dairy companies" or anywhere near that!

A sample size of the 10 largest in a country where it's literally impossible to get to the top 10 anything company without truly despicable practices is some supercharged selection bias!

[–] mrpants@midwest.social 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The 4 largest companies control 70% of the market. Markets tend to be one to three companies taking the lions share and then a long tail.

The top 10 will easily round up to 100%.

I'd also be hard pressed to find a meat producer that actually supported climate initiatives and wasn't some super small farmer.

https://www.reuters.com/business/how-four-big-companies-control-us-beef-industry-2021-06-17/

[–] Crazypartypony@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They couldn't be top 10 if they supported those initiatives. It's selection bias. Only the ones who couldn't possibly support those policies and still be in their position are counted. It's pretty misleading, even if it's a large portion. Besides, it's the 10 largest US companies. There's a bunch not in the US, obviously the US doesn't make up 100% of the industry. It's just the place that's most concerned with profit over anything else, it seems.

[–] mrpants@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago

Wow nothing gets past you.

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

More important, as long as people keep looping all the small farms with "big ag", especially in the US, there will never be a reasoned discourse.

We all hate big ag. More agricultural subsidies than people realize are paid by small farms (not individuals) and received by big ones.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I got some hippy-ass, "one bad day," native grass open pasture, keep the calves with their moms until they wean naturally, one cow per acre, priced to reflect the true cost of meat cattle ranches where I live. I don't think they were part of this survey.

[–] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same. My farmer, Justin, also makes sure the animals don't travel far to the abattoir. That said, I feel like (though hope I'm wrong) our farmers do not make up a significant part of the industry. I wouldn't even consider our guys part of the same "industry" that the big shops are part of

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's pretty niche. The place I go started a program to help breed pigs back down to a reasonable size. Apparently they have painful problems from being over bred, like hip dysplasia. They are networking with other small farms to breed their pigs progressively smaller and healthier.

But yeah, not really putting a dent in the factory farming problem and not accessible to most.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And as such, the headline is wrong 🤷