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Rewatching DS9, Major Kira and the Bajoran resistance, especially the episodes that deal with unclean hands, like "The Darkness and the Light" really hit different when watching today, vs my innocent childhood.

I don't really have a point, just DS9 has aged like fine wine with new flavors with each season passing.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"None of you belonged on Bajor. It wasn't your world. For fifty years you raped our planet, and you killed our people. You lived on our land, and you took the food out of our mouths, and I don't care whether you held a phaser in your hand or you ironed shirts for a living. You were all guilty and you were all legitimate targets!"

"That's what makes you a murderer. Indiscriminate killing… no sense of morality… no thought given to the consequences of your action. That's what makes us different."

"I was a soldier! You're just a bitter old man out for revenge."

"I am bringing the guilty to justice. And unlike you, I take care to protect the innocent."

- Kira and Prin

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Darkness_and_the_Light_(episode)#Memorable_quotes

[–] Richard@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Though I must confess that I am skeptical about scenes like this. In my opinion, DS9 often comes dangerously close to glorifying terrorism, which might have had a more positive reputation in the U.S. in the light of the Soviet defeat in Afghanistan, however, little did they know that they themselves would become the occupiers from the perspective of many people, especially in the Arab world. I doubt that DS9 would have approached terrorism the way it did if it would have been made after 9/11.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably not after 9/11 no. But I'm glad the discussion of freedom fighter / terrorist happened while it could. They really dived into both sides of the coin with the Maki, Cardassian, Maki border colonies, Bajor, etc.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago
[–] orb360@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I disagree that kira was indiscriminate, she wasn't randomly killing any being. "I don't like where you draw your line, so I'm going to accuse you of having no line" is a fallacious argument.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 year ago

Prin was not a objective observor. If memory serves he was a housekeeper who was disfigured in an attack kira carried out