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Windows Phone gets revenge on YouTube from the grave by helping users bypass its ad-blocker-blocker (www.windowscentral.com)
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Windows Phone gets revenge on YouTube from the grave by helping users bypass its ad-blocker-blocker::Windows Phone to the rescue. A lot of YouTube users want to know how to get around the new annoying YouTube pop-up telling viewers to disable their ad-blocker.

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[–] Robaque@feddit.it 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yes and no. Cool project but I gotta be honest I'm not a big fan of Louis Rossman / FUTO's "open source but not free " stance.

[–] Devouring@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's open source and it's free. You're free to pay too if you want to support them. Software costs money.

What Louis is protecting against in his license is repurposing the app with malware and ads like was repeatedly done with new pipe. Pick your poison.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No! Libertarian GPL or DIE!

./s, kinda

[–] Devouring@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I understand your philosophy there or you're joking. Why is GPL so important? Isn't the purpose of open-source to validate that no funny business is happening?

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is a purpose of open source.

First, I was wrong in linking libertarian with GPL, I was thinking of permissive licenses like MIT. GPL is a CopyLeft license, in that it forbids proprietization. MIT is more like, do whatever the hell you want, you just can’t sue me.

The joke should have been "Libertarian MIT License or DIE!"

I think MIT is actually a pretty rough license, because it allows someone to come along, take the open source work, add anything, or virtually nothing and then start selling it as their own while keeping any new code secret... when they got it for free. I'm mostly against that, but there are people who believe strongly in that type of license.

I'm more in favor of GPL like licenses (not prescriptively, but preferentially) because they force the work and its derivatives to be shared by the community, for the work to continue to be open source.

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Free as in price, not as in freedom.

[–] Robaque@feddit.it 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean it's not NewPipe's fault that Google Play hosts malware.

Based on what Louis Rossmann said it does seem the more restrictive licence comes from a place of good intentions:

[11:19] If you download this application and you decide that you want to modify the source code so you can run a build that's a little bit more amendable to your use case on your phone, we have no problem with that. However if you modify the source code of this application to insert advertisements trackers or malware in it and then try to redistribute our application with maare ads or trackers in it in a deceptive way we will come after you. That is why we have a license that is not as permissive as NewPipes'.

But idk if that's also what the license actually means legally-speaking. I'm no expert but section 4 seems pretty dubious:

FUTO TEMPORARY LICENSE:

This license grants you the rights, and only the rights, set out below in respect of the source code provided. If you take advantage of these rights, you accept this license. If you do not accept the license, do not access the code.

Words used in the Terms of Service have the same meaning in this license. Where there is any inconsistency between this license and those Terms of Service, these terms prevail.

Section 1: Definitions

  • "code" means the source code made available from time, in our sole discretion, for access under this license. Reference to code in this license means the code and any part of it and any derivative of it.
  • “compilation” means to compile the code from ‘source code’ to ‘machine code’.
  • "defect" means a defect, bug, backdoor, security issue or other deficiency in the code.
  • “non-commercial distribution” means distribution of the code or any compilation of the code, or of any other application or program containing the code or any compilation of the code, where such distribution is not intended for or directed towards commercial advantage or monetary compensation.
  • "review" means to access, analyse, test and otherwise review the code as a reference, for the sole purpose of analysing it for defects.
  • "you" means the licensee of rights set out in this license.

Section 2: Grant of Rights

  1. Subject to the terms of this license, we grant you a non-transferable, non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license to access and use the code solely for the purposes of review, compilation and non-commercial distribution.
  2. You may provide the code to anyone else and publish excerpts of it for the purposes of review, compilation and non-commercial distribution, provided that when you do so you make any recipient of the code aware of the terms of this license, they must agree to be bound by the terms of this license and you must attribute the code to the provider.
  3. Other than in respect of those parts of the code that were developed by other parties and as specified strictly in accordance with the open source and other licenses under which those parts of the code have been made available, as set out on our website or in those items of code, you are not entitled to use or do anything with the code for any commercial or other purpose, other than review, compilation and non-commercial distribution in accordance with the terms of this license.
  4. Subject to the terms of this license, you must at all times comply with and shall be bound by our Terms of Use, Privacy and Data Policy.

Section 3: Limitations

  1. This license does not grant you any rights to use the provider's name, logo, or trademarks and you must not in any way indicate you are authorised to speak on behalf of the provider.
  2. If you issue proceedings in any jurisdiction against the provider because you consider the provider has infringed copyright or any patent right in respect of the code (including any joinder or counterclaim), your license to the code is automatically terminated.
  3. THE CODE IS MADE AVAILABLE "AS-IS" AND WITHOUT ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED GUARANTEES AS TO FITNESS, MERCHANTABILITY, NON-INFRINGEMENT OR OTHERWISE. IT IS NOT BEING PROVIDED IN TRADE BUT ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS ON OUR PART AND IS NOT MADE AVAILABLE FOR ANY USE OUTSIDE THE TERMS OF THIS LICENSE. ANYONE ACCESSING THE CODE MUST ENSURE THEY HAVE THE REQUISITE EXPERTISE TO SECURE THEIR OWN SYSTEM AND DEVICES AND TO ACCESS AND USE THE CODE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS OF THIS LICENSE. YOU BEAR THE RISK OF ACCESSING AND USING THE CODE. IN PARTICULAR, THE PROVIDER BEARS NO LIABILITY FOR ANY INTERFERENCE WITH OR ADVERSE EFFECT ON YOUR SYSTEM OR DEVICES AS A RESULT OF YOUR ACCESSING AND USING THE CODE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS OF THIS LICENSE OR OTHERWISE.

Section 4: Termination, suspension and variation

  1. We may suspend, terminate or vary the terms of this license and any access to the code at any time, without notice, for any reason or no reason, in respect of any licensee, group of licensees or all licensees including as may be applicable any sub-licensees.

Section 5: General

  1. This license and its interpretation and operation are governed solely by the local law. You agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the local arbitral tribunals as further described in our Terms of Service and you agree not to raise any jurisdictional issue if we need to enforce an arbitral award or judgment in our jurisdiction or another country.
  2. Questions and comments regarding this license are welcomed and should be addressed at https://chat.futo.org/login/.

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[–] yoz@aussie.zone -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

2 million people follow that guy so 🤷‍♂️

[–] jose1324@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So?

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

is there something wrong with having a large following?

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, I follow Louis as well. I love how he promotes right to repair and custom Roms. I installed custom ROM because of him and checkout my battery backup now.

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

that's actually impressive