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Mitch McConnell offered a strong endorsement on Sunday of the Joe Biden White House’s $106bn aid proposal to Israel and Ukraine, saying he and the president were essentially “in the same place” on the issue.

McConnell, the powerful Republican leader in the Senate, also rebuffed some of his GOP colleagues in the Senate who have called for a package separating assistance for the two countries, saying it would be “a mistake” during an interview on CBS’s Face the Nation.

The Republican leader offered significant backing to the White House’s $106bn request, including $14bn in assistance to Israel, $60bn in aid to Ukraine and another $14bn to improve security on the US Mexico border. An additional $10bn would be allocated to humanitarian relief as well as an additional $7bn to the Indio-Pacific region.

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, this whole aid package is practically the most pathetic bribe to get the government back on track.

The house can't fucking pick a speaker and it's not looking good so instead of the president trying to talk to the representatives he decided to just skip over them and basically wave a check for 100 billion in the air for the military industrial complex (one of the oldest lobbying groups) to basically figure it out for him for their reward.

I don't think it's gonna work, but apparently McConnell does cause he's now backing it or he's hopeful it will work I don't know.

I think it was smart to put the Ukraine funds in there because it's really one of the only ways the US is gonna be able to fund the war efforts at the moment. The holdouts don't really care about how much the MIC makes anymore they are angry and happy to watch it all burn.

I think this is a massive waste of money and pandering to the wrong people but if it works then I guess Biden gets points for knowing that the right thing to do is dead and money is the only thing to grease our wheels anymore in which case I hope this country fails to get it together cause that is a shit way to lead.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The house can't fucking pick a speaker and it's not looking good so instead of the president trying to talk to the representatives he decided to just skip over them and basically wave a check for 100 billion in the air for the military industrial complex (one of the oldest lobbying groups) to basically figure it out for him for their reward.

I think this is overcomplicating a pretty simple dilemma. The house is a shit show, mainly because the conservative party stopped any sort of quality control after they made gains with the freedom caucus. Despite this they have always been more protective over the Senate, where foreign policy is dictated.

Biden has zero ability to negotiate with the house, any way he could get involved would likely just make things worse. Plus, why would he even want to interrupt his opponents from looking incompetent? Even conservative media outlets have been struggling to retcon this debacle.

Both the executive and the Senate know that supporting the Ukranians is a priority for Western interest. It doesn't take a conspiracy to get the liberals and conservatives to reach across the aisle on foreign policy, it's usually the only thing they agree upon.

This is just the Executive and Senate insuring that the lights stay on while the kids in the house figure their shit out.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh you haven't been paying attention to the conservatives saying that we shouldn't support Ukraine then? Cause they have absolutely been saying that. It's part of why the spending bill to delay the shutdown of the government had to remove aid to Ukraine to be able to pass.

And what do you mean Biden could do nothing? His job is to be the best politician. His job is to run the country and be the stop gap for checks and balances. He has the right and ability to talk to the people and the Congress about what is needed as a country. Just because we are so divided that it would be bad doesn't mean that's not what the position is for.

The aid offer is definitely a bribe to get them to try and force a speaker election. That's hardly conspiracy even if it is on technicality.

Oh you haven't been paying attention to the conservatives saying that we shouldn't support Ukraine then? Cause they have absolutely been saying that. It's part of why the spending bill to delay the shutdown of the government had to remove aid to Ukraine to be able to pass.

I already said the house is a cesspool? Of course there's going to be people who don't fall in line, conservatives are contrarian in nature.

And what do you mean Biden could do nothing? His job is to be the best politician. His job is to run the country and be the stop gap for checks and balances. He has the right and ability to talk to the people and the Congress about what is needed as a country.

His job is to be the head of state, not to get involved with politicians in Congress. He has no authority over Congress, he has no leverage over Congress, and attempting to do so would conflict with the balance of power.

What do you think he could say to convince the most radical conservatives in Congress to do anything productive?

Just because we are so divided that it would be bad doesn't mean that's not what the position is for.

I mean, that's literally not what the position is for........

The aid offer is definitely a bribe to get them to try and force a speaker election. That's hardly conspiracy even if it is on technicality.

Lol, they've had like half a dozen in a few weeks..... It's not like they're trying to stall, or that they don't want to elect a speaker, they're just shit at organizing because the allowed radicals in their party.

They would have voted anyways, there's no need to bribe anyone.

[–] AdamHenry@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Expect more sleeper cell attacks in the US because of our involvement in this. As usual the people making up fucked up policy are never impacted by it in blood, only profit.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a pretty dumb take. Like what sleeper cells? This just sounds like paranoia, and conspiracy that all tragedies are from secret shadow groups when honestly we make our own terrorists with little effort because of the little effort.

[–] frizop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think he means people like Kristen Salmonella

[–] AdamHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago

Ghost War by Steve Koll. It sort of explains my dumb take of how intetrvention in the Middle East breeds these sort of splinter groups that insert themselves in various countries and almost are always bankrolled.