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For like a month or two I decided, screw it, I am going to use all the programs I cannot use on Linux. This was mostly games and music making software.

I guess it was fun for a bit, tries different DAWs, did not play a single game because no time.

Basically, it was not worth it. The only thing I enjoyed was OneDrive, because having your files available anywhere is dope, but I also hate it because it wants to delete your local files. I think that was on me.

Anyways, I am back. Looking at Nextcloud. Looking at Ardour. I am fine paying for software, but morally I got to support and learn the tools that are available to me and respect FOSS. (Also less expensive... spent a lot on my experiment).

Anyone done this? Abondoned their principles thinking the grass would be greener, but only to look at their feet coverered in crap (ads, intrusive news, just bad UI).

I don't know. I don't necesarily regret it, but I won't be doing it again. What I spent is a sunk cost, but some has linux support, and VSTs for download. So, I shall see.

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[–] stifle867@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they're trying to say that a lot of the time reading the documentation treats you as if you're an expert in that particular topic, but if you can find a good guide it will usually give you all the information and commands you need to accomplish what you wanted to do. They go on to say they prefer guides that respect the user's intelligence while not making things overly complex.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I am not an intelligent user.

I often try to follow commands in guides and then it gives me a generic error like "command not found" and I have no idea what to do with that information or where to go next.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't necessarily mean you aren't intelligent but perhaps you're trying to do things you would do in Windows without having a foundational knowledge of Linux. Linux is not a drop-in replacement for Windows, it's a totally different operating system with different ways of doing things.

In this example situation you are talking about it's the equivalent of if I asked you to edit an image in Photoshop but you didn't have it installed. That's what "command not found" is trying to tell you. It's not found because it's not installed on the system.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

perhaps you're trying to do things you would do in Windows without having a foundational knowledge of Linux

I never needed a "foundational knowledge" of Windows, though. Like there are some basic things you have to learn but I used it for 30 years and no one ever asked me to open a terminal, which is the first thing everyone tells you to do in Linux.

That's what "command not found" is trying to tell you.

I understand what it means, I just don't know what to do with it.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course you need a foundational knowledge of Windows before you are able to accomplish certain tasks. You are not born with the knowledge of how to operate a computer. Even people who have not used computers before struggle with basic tasks. If I ask someone who is new to Windows to install Photoshop will they be able to accomplish it with no prior knowledge? You have to know you open the web browser, navigation to the proper website, download the installer, run the installer, find the menu shortcut, etc.

As for how to install programs on Linux it does depend on the distribution and the application you wish to install but let's take Ubuntu for example. If I want to install VLC I would type sudo apt install vlc. If I want to install Firefox I would type sudo apt install firefox. Instructions should be available online with a quick search.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it does depend on the distribution and the application you wish to install

Yes, that's part of the problem. Not only do I have to find a solution for whatever is being fucky at the time from some obscure forum where someone figured out a solution, but I have to find someone who has done so on the same distro as me. Otherwise all the commands people throw at them just return a generic error.

Then people tell you "don't run these commands if you don't know what they do!". Okay well fuck me I guess because I have no clue what I'm doing at any given time and no one explains it.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I understand and that's definitely a valid criticism of Linux. It's not a drop in replacement for Windows and it's definitely not as user friendly or targeted towards a general audience. Due to the flexibility of customisation, and the sheer amount of different distributions it is hard to provide individual support without knowing all the details of your system. It's not like Windows where in general you're probably running one of two versions.

And while being a criticism to some, it is also a strength to others.

If you ever get stuck on something feel free to shoot me a message and if I can I will try and provide advice.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I appreciate the offer. I just don't have time to become a coder. I already have a job. I just want a computer that can complete some basic tasks without constantly having compatibility issues or becoming borked in some way.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linux people are passionate about Linux and will tell you all the reasons to switch. I'm here to tell you to stick to what you already know. There's no point changing your entire operating system if you don't have the time to invest in a totally new way of using your computer.

It does make me curious why you even decided to install Linux though. Something must have made you take that step.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Because Windows is ass and constantly trying to force bullshit onto my computer. And the whole thing is basically spyware now.

[–] Eikichi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You are speaking and acting like you can't have an BSOD with an unknown .exe downloaded somewhere,

Lmao,

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

I haven't had a BSOD in 10 years.