No, no, no, wiseguy... you don't get to pretend that socialism all of a sudden means whatever the fuck you want it to mean. If that's what you want to do, perhaps you should be meeting in back-rooms with billionaires - because your drivel sure as shit don't mean anything for us proles other than "more of the same."

But the imperative to eliminate it is as artificial as the imperative to eliminate rainy days or icebergs.

In other words... there's nothing socialist about it in any way whatsoever.

See? That wasn't so difficult at all.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One doesn't need to take centuries old writing as dogma to learn from it or expand upon it. Your narrow definition of socialism is outdated by contemporary standards. You don't have to like it or agree, but don't shoot the messenger.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your narrow definition of socialism is outdated by contemporary standards.

No. It isn't. You just wish it was.

but don’t shoot the messenger.

No, I think we'll just settle for debunking you... which would be no more difficult to do than with any other "enlightened centrist" claptrap.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me: The political form of a society wherein the proletariat is victorious in overthrowing the bourgeoisie will be a democratic republic.

You: Insufficient fan service

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

will be a democratic republic.

Isn't that what they've been telling us we already have?

Really... try harder.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me: exclusionary leftist orthodoxy is the most annoying part about lemmy.

You: but have you considered exclusionary leftist orthodoxy?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're excluding yourself, Clyde. Don't expect leftists to include you while you're trying to camouflage the fact that appeasing the status quo serves your interests - that's the kind of shit we have become really good at seeing through.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You heard it here first folks. Democratic socialism is the statues quo. I think we've sufficiently beaten this horse.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

How are those meetings with the billionaires going? Screwed any labor movements over yet?